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06-14-2016 , 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by 33 Big Blinds
What about the one in Brooklyn?

http://pix11.com/2016/06/13/multiple...brooklyn-park/



I am sure the firearm was legally obtained, was SAFE Act legal, and carried by a NY CWP holder.
This is not making the point you believe it is.
06-14-2016 , 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyWf
The solution here is to abandon political correctness and call "people" like steve out for what they are. For far too long the mainstream media and academics have tolerated and even condoned this garbage, and the burden on the rest of us is a steady supply of dead bodies so little stevey can keep the dream alive of one day killing a black kid.

**** that. Gun people are bad people. It's a hobby with blood on its hands. NRA membership should have a social stigma. These people need the blood of dead innocents to feel like big men, and that's not OK.
I get that your upset bro but go easy on little Stevie's gun boner. Lol at AR-15 being a good small game rifle. Need to rain down hell fire on that jack rabbit? GTFO

Last edited by fatkid; 06-14-2016 at 07:12 PM.
06-14-2016 , 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by David Sklansky
I just hope that by "innocents" you include animals hunted for fun.
mcdonalds has committed more crimes against animality than have hunters
06-14-2016 , 07:16 PM
If the American left really got its **** together they would adopt the tactics of the anti choice group and show up around all gun clubs with signs of pictures of dead children. Really graphic gory bullet hole **** off rotten.com

Within thirty years you can then start passing laws forcing gun clubs to have admitting privileges at hospitals in case of accidents happening.

This fight with be won with a soft touch approach. If you live in America and really care take yourself and some friends down to the nearest gun club on the weekend one or twice a month and call people who walk inside baby killers. I believe you can get up to three feet from them and shout as loud as you want.

This could probably grow rapidly as a grass root movement.
06-14-2016 , 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by RowdyOne
ITS WASN T AN ASSAULT RIFLE
IT WASNT A AUTOMATIC RIFLE AS CROOKED HILLARY AND SANDERS AND OBAMA CALLED IT

IT WAS A SEMI AUTOMATIC
AND HE WAS CHECKED AND RECHECKED AND HE HAD 2 YES 2 LICENSE FOR GUN POSSESSION FROM THE US GOVERNMENT YES THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION
HE WAS LICENSED TO CARRY WEAPONS FROM THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION AS A SECURITY PERSONNEL FOR A COMPANY THAT DOES SECURITY AT US NUKE SITES
HE HAD TOP LEVEL SECURITY FROM THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION EVEN THOU HE HAD BEEN UNDER INVESTIGATION 3 TIMES FOR TERRORIST TIES
WHY DO THESE ALL SEEM TO COME BACK TO THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION FAILURES
So what you're saying is we need more regulations to keep guns out of the hands of people like this.

Got it.
06-14-2016 , 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by fatkid
I get that your upset bro but go easy on little Stevie's gun boner. Lol at AR-15 being a good small game rifle. Need to rain down hell fire on that jack rabbit? GTFO
.223 is a varmint round.

06-14-2016 , 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by David Sklansky
I just hope that by "innocents" you include animals hunted for fun.
I can say as a Midwesterner, hunting animals for fun is creepy as **** and those people should also be stigmatized along with the people who fetishize assault rifles. Though this is probably a derail.
06-14-2016 , 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyWf
The solution here is to abandon political correctness and call "people" like steve out for what they are. For far too long the mainstream media and academics have tolerated and even condoned this garbage, and the burden on the rest of us is a steady supply of dead bodies so little stevey can keep the dream alive of one day killing a black kid.

**** that. Gun people are bad people. It's a hobby with blood on its hands. NRA membership should have a social stigma. These people need the blood of dead innocents to feel like big men, and that's not OK.
But remember, trans students having civil rights might have (citation needed) consequences to others unlike gun ownership.

lollolol steve.
06-14-2016 , 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by LASJayhawk
.223 is a varmint round.

"Varmint rounds" proved pretty effective in killing 49 people this weekend.
06-14-2016 , 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by einbert
HBO's Real Sports with Bryant Gumbel just did an episode on the AR-15 and its widespread consumer use as a "target shooting and sporting rifle." Definitely worth checking out, Episode 230 from May 24, 2016.
why are you so obsessed with the ar - 15, pretty sure the 2nd A doesn't say anything about home and sporting use, it affirms a persons right to guns period.
06-14-2016 , 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by JimHammer
"Varmint rounds" proved pretty effective in killing 49 people this weekend.
Three hours between getting shot and getting help didn't do much good...
06-14-2016 , 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by [Phill]
take yourself and some friends down to the nearest gun club on the weekend one or twice a month and call people who walk inside baby killers.
Does that only work for guns?

Should they gather at fruit stands and call banana eaters murderers?

How about calling anyone with nice shoes or clothes a child abuser?

Call anyone using a petrol engine a proponent of stoning women?

I'm quite anti-gun on a personal level, but at least not a frothing hypocrite about it.
06-14-2016 , 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by BitchiBee
why are you so obsessed with the ar - 15, pretty sure the 2nd A doesn't say anything about home and sporting use, it affirms a persons right to guns period.
It was designed and intended for military use. Was never intended for civilian use. Even the designer of the weapon says it was never intended to be marketed to civilians. It's being used very frequently in these mass shootings that are killing so many people.

The 2nd amendment argument is obviously a red herring. As I noted in another thread:

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To go a bit further, this is an exact argument made against the Civil Rights legislation of the 1960s. Never mind the fact that the people arguing this point had no intention of passing said legislation anyway. If you really believe in a policy you pass it and let the courts decide if it's Constitutional or not. Republicans believe it's in their political best interest to do nothing. If we don't send a message to them, they will continue to believe that.
06-14-2016 , 09:45 PM
The problem is the analogy and therefor the similarity in tactics breaks down between abortion and guns. Anti choice protestors target clinics because they know that's where the majority of abortions take place and it's a very publicly visible area (until they're banned). That's not true of guns and gun clubs in America. Guns are freely available to anyone at virtually any time.
06-14-2016 , 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by einbert
It was designed and intended for military use. Was never intended for civilian use. Even the designer of the weapon says it was never intended to be marketed to civilians. It's being used very frequently in these mass shootings that are killing so many people.

The 2nd amendment argument is obviously a red herring. As I noted in another thread:
what is the problem with citizens owning weapons designed for military use?
06-14-2016 , 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by BitchiBee
what is the problem with citizens owning weapons designed for military use?
06-14-2016 , 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by einbert
HBO's Real Sports with Bryant Gumbel just did an episode on the AR-15 and its widespread consumer use as a "target shooting and sporting rifle." Definitely worth checking out, Episode 230 from May 24, 2016.
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Originally Posted by LostOstrich
I'm curious as to what possible non-murderous reason one might have for owning such a weapon tbh
^^^^ see above.

Of course like rational people I don't think 'sport' justifies the risk to the rest of the population of them being legally available.

I told my Gf (Chinese) about the common "well why don't we ban cars?" Argument. She immediately said "but those aren't the same thing!" I said "congratulations, you've shown more critical thinking than half of americans who've been arguing this for years."
06-14-2016 , 10:34 PM
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Originally Posted by einbert
...Even the designer of the weapon says it was never intended to be marketed to civilians.
Cite? Maybe my google-foo is bad, but I can't find anywhere Eugene Stoner said that.
06-14-2016 , 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted by LASJayhawk
Cite? Maybe my google-foo is bad, but I can't find anywhere Eugene Stoner said that.
HBO Real Sports Episode 230 "America's Gun"
06-14-2016 , 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by BitchiBee
what is the problem with citizens owning weapons designed for military use?
The problem is it's very very easy for someone who is mentally unstable, radicalized, or filled with hate to get one (from a sporting goods store), and go kill a bunch of innocent people. And it's happening a lot.
06-14-2016 , 10:39 PM
hand guns account for 20x the murders of rifles like the ar-15

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The problem is it's very very easy for someone who is mentally unstable, radicalized, or filled with hate to get one (from a sporting goods store), and go kill a bunch of innocent people. And it's happening a lot.
sure, but if you want to make the argument that gun regulation works and you want to save lives why don't we ban the hand gun. that seems far more rational.

rifles account for half the deaths of personal weapons (fists, legs) in the United States. mass murders are awful but statistically the hate on rifles is unfounded

stats from https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/uc..._2009-2013.xls

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06-14-2016 , 10:41 PM
OK, **** all the gun nuts. Ban guns. Done.
06-14-2016 , 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by BitchiBee
sure, but if you want to make the argument that gun regulation works and you want to save lives why don't we ban the hand gun. that seems far more rational.
Sounds good to me.
06-14-2016 , 11:35 PM
Uh oh, ikesy's not gonna like this one. AMA deems guns to be a 'public health crisis.' Those pesky doctors are now part of the crazed liberal agenda to take er gunz!!1!!111!!!!

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-w...risis-says-ama
06-15-2016 , 12:23 AM
Banning handguns would be amazing, sign me up.

      
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