What is the risk? In my experience, it is exceedingly rare for witnesses to invoke their Fifth Amendments rights unless there is a non-trivial risk of criminal exposure.

I think your way over thinking this aspect. This was something they could do that they thought would piss him off. The thoughts of the possible scenarios people in the traffic jams were coming up with probably never got past the 'we showed that ****' thought.

I think this could go one of two ways. Either Christie gets fatter because the stress makes him eat more comfort food or he gets thinner because the stress upsets his appetite.

lol at you

put your money where your mouth is

And what about Christie saying he didn't ask her why she did this...don't you think that would be most people's first question.

And yes to the person that brought up that there was a lot more premeditation with this. You don't just get a message to tie up traffic and respond "got it".

Looking forward to release of more documents.

Yeah the whole idea of creating a traffic jam to screw a political enemy, is so lame-brained that the simplest explanation is probably correct. As to why would they do this, just because some mayor didn't endorse? Probably because they thought the mayor was a douche or had some other personal gripe with him. I doubt it has to go much deeper than that, esp. when you are dealing with geniuses who find kids stuck on school buses hilarious.

Put my money on what?

anything

It is pretty stupendous to also communicate this in captured form.

The cover-up is always worse...and more salacious. It does matter that if he didn't know. It was when he was questioned how he was asked. And how little credence he gave to the actually story...that turned out to be 100% true.

I don't think he would have won election if this happened last year.

what position am I taking that (a) you disagree with; and (b) we can turn into a bet?

I don't know how to bet on what the statute means. I'm a lawyer, so I guess on some level I bet on my legal judgment every day, but I don't see how to turn this into a bet.

Lololol

I'll take 'Somebody gets indicted' at +500.

of course Romney would have made have made a great prez. more tax cuts, and abortion restrictions, privitization. sounds fantastic.

"Because you told me to, sir."

Midy:

No, you are not. In the movie "All The President's Men" with Robert Redford and Hal Holbrook, (with Holbrook playing the role of the infamous "Deep Throat" whistleblower), a 2:00 A.M. underground garage meeting is reenacted between Bob Woodward and his "secret source". Deep Throat is upbraiding Woodward (to his face) for "blowing the investigation" and "setting it back for months" by printing [in the paper] a significant factual error. (The Post had ran with a story that Hugh Sloan, a treasurer at CREEP - the Committee to Reelect the President - had testified to the Grand Jury, under oath, that Bob Haldeman, Nixon's Chief of Staff, personally controlled a political "slush fund" from inside the White House. That slush fund was used for "dirty tricks" designed to sabotage the campaigns of Ed Muskie and George McGovern, dig up dirt on Ted Kennedy and Chappaquidick, and to pull other clever little pranks (like the "Canuck letter") on Democrats. Donald Segretti was the expert on executing dirty tricks. Back in their frat boy days at USC, Segretti and his buddy Dwight Chapin - Nixon's appointments secretary - called it "rat f**king. They actually laughed about it. (Watch the movie - it's all in there.)

The big mistake Woodward and Bernstein made - it was actually an overeager Berstein - was in reporting Hugh Sloan's testimony to the Grand Jury. Sloan had not, in fact, testified that H.R. Haldeman controlled the slush fund from inside the White House. That was a factual error and the Nixon White House was quick to jump all over the Washington Post for being on a "vendetta" against Nixon. Woodward later acknowledged that it was their "lowest moment" during the entire Watergate saga.

OK, back to the underground garage ... Deep Throat (a lawyer) is livid with Woodward for blowing the investigation. He proceeds to lecture Woodward on how the investigation of a criminal conspiracy works. It is one of the most dramatic scenes in the movie. "Throat" tells Woodward that in a conspiracy like this, you start at the bottom and work your way up. You start with the minnows, the small fish, and confront them with so many charges that if they choose to play hardball and are convicted; they'll go to prison for a long time. While the "small fish" are contemplating doing a long stretch of hard time, you offer them a deal - a guilty plea to a single count (and a recommendation for a greatly reduced sentence) in exchange for your full and complete cooperation in telling us what your higher-ups in the chain knew and approved. Once that small fish agrees to testify against his immediate superior, you focus in on that individual and repeat the process. Most of the lower-level co-conspirators do not want to go to jail and have their lives ruined forever, so they strike a plea bargain with the prosecutor. It takes some time, but eventually the prosecutor finally works his way up to the big fish.

That's how "New Jersey Watergate" will likely play out. It will take some time, but eventually Chris Christie will fall. Like Nixon, he'll probably resign in disgrace in order to avoid impeachment and [possible] criminal prosecution. (At a minimum Governor Christie will probably be named as a co-defendant in the civil action that is sure to be filed by the family of the 91-year-old woman who died.) For all practical purposes, Chris Christie is a [political] dead man walking. It's all over but the shouting.

Grunching here, but wtf??

pvn, ladies and gentlemen.

FYI annatas stream of consciousness posting is entirely fake

The College of William & Mary in Virginia is a public research university located in Williamsburg, Virginia, United States. Privately founded in 1693 by letters patent issued by King William III and Queen Mary II, it is the second-oldest institution of higher education in the United States after Harvard University. William & Mary is considered one of the original "Public Ivies," a publicly funded university providing a quality of education comparable to those of the Ivy League.

more presidents went there than any other school. i studied in the same building as thomas jefferson when he was a kid.

if my boring real life seems fake man u should hear my fake life, i mean im this ex-gunslinger and see scarlett johanssen was my wife but she died of like smallpox in sort of like an unforgiven like situation and i am a "dangerous man" but i go to this town run by these greedy bosses and i just want to have a bottle of whiskey and a peaceful hour to drink it but i dunno sometimes i get in a card game but regardless i get in plenty of shootouts and stuff

not sure what you are patting yourself on the back here about.

dude is sure there will be charges filed, I asked him to give me some odds, he hasn't done so yet.

I'm waiting to give him my money, he won't take it.

I heard Christie is getting charged with war crimes for this.

It is when you consider the timing of the email to shut down Fort Lee came the morning following an angry press conference from Christie where he calls the Senate democrats 'animals' in explaining why he isn't re-appointing a republican judge that he liked to the state's Supreme Court.

I mean, there's nothing that really makes sense to warrant this kind of political payback, but this is as good of an explanation as I've seen yet, and I think it's much more logical than a small town mayor being punished for not endorsing the governor when he's going to win re-election in a landslide.

like anatta said, it will depend on the fate of Obamacare. nothing else really matters imo

To quote our current savior in chief, Barack Obomba, "that's politics"

Who is Obomba?