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08-13-2016 , 07:44 AM

#6451

einbert

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Quick_Ben

I take it you never watched Cops? I used to watch it a lot growing up. And my takeaway from this is that when engaging with police, "Yes Sir" tends to have much better outcomes than "**** You"

COPS is a great example of racism programming that's completely standard in U.S. culture, so I'm not too surprised to hear you say this.

Edit: And I don't mean programming like "selecting which TV shows to play." I mean it's meant to instill racist attitudes and values in the people that watch it, and it apparently is working.

08-13-2016 , 07:54 AM

#6452

FlyWf

It's the other way

Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 58,090

Quote:

I considered using a better analogy, but it didn't seem worth the effort.

"I considered not making stupid racist posts, but it didn't seem worth the effort, because I'm from ****ing SMP and stupid and racist posts are the standard over there"

Well, tough news my dude, when you make horrifically stupid and racist posts when trying to patronize other posters, you might get some negative feedback.

Go. Back. To. SMP.

08-13-2016 , 07:54 AM

#6453

FlyWf

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Quick_Ben

I don't think the point of welfare is to make people on it not poor. Correct me if I am wrong though.

You are wrong. Hope this helps.

08-13-2016 , 08:01 AM

#6454

FlyWf

It's the other way

Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 58,090

Quote:

Originally Posted by einbert

This is crossing over to the Tragic Death thread, but if police ever started patrolling the nice Kasich-voting exurbs the way they patrol the inner city and the trailer park people like Quick_Ben here would change their ****ing tune right quick. Let start racking up felony convictions for all the housewives on Xanax without a prescription, set up a DUI checkpoint outside an upscale happy hour spot, that sort of ****.

08-13-2016 , 08:11 AM

#6455

einbert

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Fly,

You gotta realize America is designed to make people racist. They've been programmed to be racist from a very young age with shows like COPS and all kinds of cultural and media influences. Give people a chance to overcome that rather than just mocking them sometimes.

08-13-2016 , 08:13 AM

#6456

einbert

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Quote:

Originally Posted by FlyWf

Ding ding ding. I saw a group of white teenagers with all their trucks parked in a parking lot yesterday, talking and laughing with each other (it was dark but not late yet). I had to stop and think if that was a gathering of black teenagers in cadillacs or something, the police wouldn't have ignored the gathering but instead would have cracked down on it as a "gang meeting." Orange Is the New Black actually has a rather genius subplot this year about this whole situation where black people gathering are considered gang members but white people gathering are just considered harmless..

08-13-2016 , 09:54 AM

#6457

ano12345

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Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 13,741

What if it is actually true though that black people of a certain age looking a certain way, congregating on a certain spot are more likely to be gang members?

Then would it be ok for a pail ice officer to do some proactive policing and confront them?

Or should police officers just sit in the station and wait for 911 calls and just do reactive policing?

08-13-2016 , 09:57 AM

#6458

+rep_lol

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you never answered my question about welfare

08-13-2016 , 10:01 AM

#6459

FlyWf

It's the other way

Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 58,090

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quick_Ben

Racism might be bad in practice, but what about IN THEORY?

Come on guys let's all help Ben out here, make it OK that he's terrified of minorities.

08-13-2016 , 10:13 AM

#6460

BrianTheMick2

Long way to go and a short time to get there.

Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 19,434

Quote:

Originally Posted by FlyWf

Show me the racist post I made.

08-13-2016 , 10:15 AM

#6461

Jiggymike

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Quote:

Originally Posted by +rep_lol

you never answered my question about welfare

He hasn't answered a lot of questions

08-13-2016 , 10:15 AM

#6462

rjoefish

Got Out the Vote

Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 31,086

My friend in KC was sending me snap chats of a black guy at a pool open carrying. The cops had been called on him and he was lying face down on the ground with his kids standing next to him while a cop checked his permit. They don't even talk to a white guy in that scenario.

08-13-2016 , 10:49 AM

#6463

hornbug

grinder

Join Date: Jun 2015 Posts: 657

Quote:

Originally Posted by einbert

This is in your mind and in minds of others who are indoctrinated to think of police as mindless morons.

"these people are white, must act this way"

"these people are black, must act that way"

In reality, police are real thinking individuals who have typically done quite a bit of training on how to react properly to a situation.

The kneejerk mindless moron policeman is a myth and promoting the idea that they exist is nonsense.

08-13-2016 , 11:08 AM

#6464

Huehuecoyotl

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Quick_Ben

The DOJ already made suggestions on how to do proactive policing. Violating citizens rights isn't in the suggestions.

08-13-2016 , 11:11 AM

#6465

Huehuecoyotl

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Quote:

Originally Posted by hornbug

Can confirm as a once teenage who hung out in parking lots, teenagers are either drinking in parking lots or planning to drink some where else. This is a prime vector for BriantheMick to suggest the police to go crack some skulls in the interest of preventing future crime.

08-13-2016 , 11:55 AM

#6466

Jiggymike

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People can be subconsciously biased without being mindless, I think that's what most people consider to be the entire issue, not necessarily overtly racist policing which would be easier to identify and deal with.

08-13-2016 , 12:34 PM

#6467

FlyWf

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hornbug- The real free thinkers, like you, know true rebellion is, that's right, absolute loyalty in both word and deed to authority.

Jesus ****ing Christ.

08-13-2016 , 12:36 PM

#6468

FlyWf

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Sheeple are all like "hey institutional racism manifests itself in the justice system".

But not hornbug. Mommy's special boy sees through those lies to know that police are our friends, citizens. And our obligations go beyond mere unthinking unconditional acquiescence to authority, we must also be mindful that on the internet we don't say anything that impugns the character of our noble guardians.

08-13-2016 , 01:51 PM

#6469

kerowo

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Effen

THIS is a good post. The rest of your posts vary between meh and hot buttered garbage. There's a reason no one tore down this post.

Novel idea: let's tackle the downstream problem of poverty while holding police accountable in the meantime. I can assume everyone is good with that.

It's not that good, he is essentially blaming the poors for being treated the way are by the police. You can be pro police and still realize that they are under trained, under monitored, and probably underfunded to fix the first two problems. This is the fault of the police not the poors that they occasionally murder.

08-13-2016 , 02:16 PM

#6470

BrianTheMick2

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl

Hmmm. Does that sound anything like anything I have ever said?

If I were to say anything it would be to mention that being harassed by the police for loitering as a young man is a great example of what is wrong with police disgression.

08-13-2016 , 02:37 PM

#6471

Huehuecoyotl

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I got you confused with Quick_Ben

08-13-2016 , 03:34 PM

#6472

MrWookie

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Quick_Ben

I don't think the point of welfare is to make people on it not poor. Correct me if I am wrong though.

Is this "Welfare as it is right now is designed to keep people poor, because liberals," or is it, "Welfare should not help people become not poor" ?

08-13-2016 , 03:49 PM

#6473

Effen

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Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 24,004

Quote:

Originally Posted by kerowo

what

pretty sure poverty is a leading cause of crime. maybe you can help me out with that one.

that one specific post doesn't have a lot of blaming the poors afaict

08-13-2016 , 05:22 PM

#6474

DrChesspain

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Effen

what

pretty sure poverty is a leading cause of crime. maybe you can help me out with that one.

that one specific post doesn't have a lot of blaming the poors afaict

Not all contact with police occurs because a crime is/was being committed.