I think tough laws are in order quell this once and for all police should have 2 body cameras all across the united states. mandatory suspension with out pay for 1 year going out on duty without body camera. mandatory arrests and sentencing for a police officer shooting anyone unarmed regardless of race would fix quite a bit.

When there is clear videotape evidence of a civilian murdering an unarmed person, that person is taken into custody and charged in a relatively quick period. But we have a special system of justice for cops and it revolves around a lack of justice. She is on paid vacation right now, AKA "paid administrative leave."

You are living on another planet. It's quite the opposite. And thank goodness these videos exist, because now we actually know about these events. The next step is demanding justice.

You start charging every officer in an automatic manner and you will create big payoffs to those officers who were not acting improperly. The big losers will be the taxpayers and justice will be no better served.

Would you treat any other defendant in this manner? What next guilty until proven innocent? Throw away the bill of rights?

How many people shoot and kill other people who have their hands up at the time in front of multiple witnesses and don't get arrested and charged with murder?

There are a lot of factors in the timing of an arrest - likelihood to flee and risk of harm to other people while not in custody for example. Over simplifications of our process are not helpful.

Find one example of a non-officer who doesn't get arrested.

If your in the military your held to higher standard if you break the law. what would be so wrong holding police to the same higher standard when they have US citizens lives in their hands on a daily basis.

George Zimmerman was not arrested on the day of the shooting. It was six weeks later.

I don't know if we need a different system or court marshalls for cops. Just enforcing the existing laws would be a good start.

This guy wasn't a suspect of anything. He was a motorist having car trouble.

His only crime was that he was black apparently.

How can you say this when his social media hasn't even been checked for rap lyrics yet?

So it's ok for a cop to shoot someone because they might commit a crime in the future?

Listen- the important thing to hornbug is that a black person is dead. His criminality is secondary to his race.

Tulsa might be the worst one since the SC cop shot the guy in the back. Absolutely disgusting.

No way this officer should be on paid leave. Yes, she should get the same rights as any other criminal who murders someone in terms of the legal process. But that is all she should get since she acted like a cold blooded killer.

She should have been arrested and jailed on the spot

A lot about this doesn't make any sense. Why would they have their guns drawn, backup called in and a helicopter on scene if he was just having car trouble? If those are really the facts this is the worst one yet and it is not close. Even with the most generous set of surrounding circumstances for the cops this is one of the worst shooting videos yet. Completely disgusting.

Also for those just now hearing about the race riots read the wiki on Black Wall Street. It is very very interesting.

From what I can gather from news reports he stopped his car in the middle of the road (or it broke down there) and he got out. I think when the woman officer got there she radioed saying he was out of the car and uncooperative and would not show her his hands. This probably explains the backup and (I guess) the helicopter although that seems excessive.

None of which changes anything, she shot and killed an unarmed man who had just been tased. I can't see any possible justification for it. Jesus even if the guy was not listening and reaching into his car (which you know will be the police version), the cops could have easily tackled him. There was zero reason to tase or shoot.

Too many cops seem to shoot at the first sign of trouble. They are supposed to be trained at de-escalating situations, not escalating traffic stops to murder.

How many actual traffic stops end in murder? Im guessing something like 0.0001%

amazing point, br0

So you're saying there's an acceptable number of traffic stops that result in murder?

The Tulsa incident was obviously really terrible and unjust. She should be fired and charged. But I completely disagree that cops try to escalate every traffic stop to severe confrontation.

Starting to look bad for the cop shooter,the story of him reaching in the drivers window can't be true,video shows the window is up.
And he's shot as he's being tased,within 3-4 seconds at most.
And look how the officers approached him,in a group,side by side...why do that if he is acting suspicious,do you want to be an easy target?

I think it's ultimately a badly trained officer overreacting to the situation,but it's not going to be stated or handled as such.

When someone comes along making this argument, I'm glad you're prepared to shoot them down.

Even if there was a broken down car in the middle of the road with someone who hadn't violated any laws being "uncooperative" how does that allow for bringing the chopper in? I mean I'm assuming if some rank and file cop phoned that in and requested the chopper be sent that it gets laughed at and dismissed.

Which i guess gets to the heart of the matter. To the racist cop the guy probably seemed more dangerous and required more force than normal because he was black. And it's possible that the officer radioed in about an "uncooperative black" and they brought the cavalry.

I did read that they found PCP in his car when they searched it. But that doesn't justify anything and it isn't apparent from the video that the car had been searched prior to shooting him anyways.

No I was not arguing that. I often defend the police, who do a tough job very well most of the time.

However it does seem as if we are seeing too many cases where cops are way too quick on the trigger, when there were steps that could have been made to deescalate the situation. This was a case that did not need to end with shots being fired.