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Here we go again... (unarmed black teen shot by cop): Shootings in LA and MN Here we go again... (unarmed black teen shot by cop): Shootings in LA and MN

08-06-2016 , 07:05 PM


Some of these police officers seem to be pretty inept at handling firearms... firing at a moving vehicle in residential area like that... not to mention with your colleagues immediately behind it (to the point where some of them assumed the shots came from the suspect!)

Then shooting someone in the back as they're running away.

And lastly the way the whole group of them stand around while he's bleeding out? Well after they've ensured they've put cuffs on him... as if he's about to run anywhere in that state. Why is it that in so many of these Police shootings in the US you don't see the officers attempt to perform basic first aid? Surely that ought to be a priority rather than pointlessly putting a dying person in handcuffs and just leaving them there on the ground as you chat amongst your colleagues?
08-06-2016 , 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Dowie


Some of these police officers seem to be pretty inept at handling firearms... firing at a moving vehicle in residential area like that... not to mention with your colleagues immediately behind it (to the point where some of them assumed the shots came from the suspect!)

Then shooting someone in the back as they're running away.

And lastly the way the whole group of them stand around while he's bleeding out? Well after they've ensured they've put cuffs on him... as if he's about to run anywhere in that state. Why is it that in so many of these Police shootings in the US you don't see the officers attempt to perform basic first aid? Surely that ought to be a priority rather than pointlessly putting a dying person in handcuffs and just leaving them there on the ground as you chat amongst your colleagues?
Because they literally believe that disobeying police orders carries a death sentence with it. They are quite happy to see the person die who so callously disobeyed a direct order given to them by police.
08-06-2016 , 10:33 PM
"They shot at us too, right?"

yeah, make sure you get your story straight buddy.
08-07-2016 , 12:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Quick_Ben
Serious question. All you guys that are against profiling, what is your actual solution to how police should do their job? Do you feel police should never do any proactive policing at all? Or do you feel for every young black male the police stop and question they should also stop an old white female, you know balance things out?
Serious answer. I, like most black people, have no problem with police profiling as long as they are profiling people based on their resemblance to criminals and not just because of their skin color.

Go ahead and stop all the sagging, bandana wearing gang bangers and wannabes, riding four deep in an Oldsmobile Cutlass. Just don't profile the working poor and middle class minorities in a beat-up Honda just for BS violations for revenue. And don't murder folks because you are frightened.

Last edited by Wheel Gunner; 08-07-2016 at 12:09 AM.
08-07-2016 , 01:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Wheel Gunner
Serious answer. I, like most black people, have no problem with police profiling as long as they are profiling people based on their resemblance to criminals and not just because of their skin color.

Go ahead and stop all the sagging, bandana wearing gang bangers and wannabes, riding four deep in an Oldsmobile Cutlass. Just don't profile the working poor and middle class minorities in a beat-up Honda just for BS violations for revenue. And don't murder folks because you are frightened.
That's pretty reasonable.
08-07-2016 , 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Wheel Gunner
Serious answer. I, like most black people, have no problem with police profiling as long as they are profiling people based on their resemblance to criminals and not just because of their skin color.

Go ahead and stop all the sagging, bandana wearing gang bangers and wannabes, riding four deep in an Oldsmobile Cutlass. Just don't profile the working poor and middle class minorities in a beat-up Honda just for BS violations for revenue. And don't murder folks because you are frightened.
You don't sound very anti-profiling to me.
08-07-2016 , 09:27 AM
Lol bandanas. Dude it's like 2016. Dude thinks Sean Penn and Robert Duvall are patrolling the streets.
08-07-2016 , 09:49 AM
I'm anti-profiling, just profile only the VERY black people, where you can just look at how far their pants sag and KNOW they're gang bangers.
08-07-2016 , 10:42 AM
When Wheel Gunner said "like most black people" he didn't mean he was including himself in that, he's white, he meants "like most black people I seen on Fox News"
08-07-2016 , 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by campfirewest
That's pretty reasonable.
Man how did Trump ever get the nomination?
08-07-2016 , 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by fatkid
Lol bandanas. Dude it's like 2016. Dude thinks Sean Penn and Robert Duvall are patrolling the streets.
Oldsmobile hasn't existed since 2004.
08-07-2016 , 11:07 AM
I mean if you want to profile gotta go with the Impala. MS13 tat will be on the forehead so not so easy to spot with the bandana.
08-07-2016 , 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Wheel Gunner
Serious answer. I, like most black people, have no problem with police profiling as long as they are profiling people based on their resemblance to criminals and not just because of their skin color.
Not profiling

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Go ahead and stop all the sagging, bandana wearing gang bangers and wannabes, riding four deep in an Oldsmobile Cutlass. Just don't profile the working poor and middle class minorities in a beat-up Honda just for BS violations for revenue. And don't murder folks because you are frightened.
profiling
08-08-2016 , 02:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Dowie


Some of these police officers seem to be pretty inept at handling firearms... firing at a moving vehicle in residential area like that... not to mention with your colleagues immediately behind it (to the point where some of them assumed the shots came from the suspect!)

Then shooting someone in the back as they're running away.

And lastly the way the whole group of them stand around while he's bleeding out? Well after they've ensured they've put cuffs on him... as if he's about to run anywhere in that state. Why is it that in so many of these Police shootings in the US you don't see the officers attempt to perform basic first aid? Surely that ought to be a priority rather than pointlessly putting a dying person in handcuffs and just leaving them there on the ground as you chat amongst your colleagues?
If I was a Chicago police officer, I'd be embarrassed to wear the same uniform as these out of shape cowards.
08-08-2016 , 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Lestat
If I was a Chicago police officer, I'd be embarrassed to wear the same uniform as these out of shape cowards.
Yup, I'm not a police officer but I've had to carry a firearm among a civilian population in Iraq and the rules of engagement I operated under over there would seem to be more robust than those used by Chicago police officers among their own civilian population.

While institutional racism is harder to tackle and perhaps a reflection of racism in society as a whole a large part of this issue with black men being needlessly shot by police could probably be dealt with by addressing the issue in general of people of all backgrounds being unnecessarily shot by police.

You don't have to be in law enforcement to know that firing a weapon (rather ineptly) in a residential area, at a suspect in close proximity to your own colleagues is really ****ing stupid. Or that shooting someone in the back is pretty reckless and rather hard to justify too. And not to mention that when someone has been shot the priority ought to be to stem the flow of blood ASAP not try to put them in cuffs.

It does seem that they are too willing to draw their weapons and/or open fire when it isn't necessary and not as accountable as they ought to be when they do so.
08-08-2016 , 07:50 PM
Shooting people in the back is really, really easy for a cop to justify.
08-08-2016 , 08:06 PM
I meant ethically, but if it is easy to justify legally then that is part of the problem!
08-09-2016 , 02:44 AM
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Originally Posted by MrWookie
Shooting people in the back is really, really easy for a cop to justify.
They were coming right for us?
08-09-2016 , 02:53 AM
That episode of South Park was before everyone had a camera. It would have worked on Laquan McDonald but for said cameras.
08-10-2016 , 08:28 AM
Carjacker runs from the police and hides in a house. The police find him and arrest him. Another group of police then spot a mentally ill man sleeping in a yard and shoot him

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...1995&tid=ss_tw
08-10-2016 , 08:49 AM
Looks like the police hasn't decided on a story yet

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And when he allegedly ran towards them
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the guy was running away
08-10-2016 , 09:23 AM
He was coming right at them, and he might have been able to punch through the armored vehicles with his demon hulk strength that all black people have.

We really should give the cops armed drones so they don't have to face any remote possibility of danger. Tanks just aren't enough against people armed with demon fists.
08-11-2016 , 12:28 AM
A police officers #1 job is to come home alive to their family. If you don't like that don't put yourself in a position where you might get shot by a cop.

The best way to do this is not be a criminal and if you are confronted by a police officer do whatever the **** they tell you.

Most people shot by cops are not following this rule of thumb.
08-11-2016 , 01:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Quick_Ben
A police officers #1 job is to come home alive to their family. If you don't like that don't put yourself in a position where you might get shot by a cop.

The best way to do this is not be a criminal and if you are confronted by a police officer do whatever the **** they tell you.

Most people shot by cops are not following this rule of thumb.
For whom is this not their #1 job, and who, other than cops, gets to kill people with special privileges in this pursuit?
08-11-2016 , 01:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Quick_Ben
A police officers #1 job is to come home alive to their family. If you don't like that don't put yourself in a position where you might get shot by a cop.

The best way to do this is not be a criminal and if you are confronted by a police officer do whatever the **** they tell you.

Most people shot by cops are not following this rule of thumb.
Satire or not, this accurately describes the problem which is the culture of cowardice that permeates police culture. This culture is the mirror image of gang culture, anyone who complains is ostracized.

      
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