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11-29-2017 , 11:51 AM

#1151

champstark

aka starkwired

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SenorKeeed

booked, I win $50 if Moore loses or wins by less than 8%, you win $50 if Moore wins by more than 8%

11-29-2017 , 11:53 AM

#1152

heehaww

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ScreaminAsian

the story that absolves him is for someone to come forward and say, "look, roy is a normal guy he's dated many adult women, here are some of their names"

Can't a pedo also be attracted to adults (even if less attracted)? The 8 women are suddenly liars if it's proven he once had sex with adults? Or what do you mean by "absolves"?

11-30-2017 , 03:13 AM

#1153

wheatrich

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Roy Moore is one of the authors of this book https://www.amazon.com/Law-Governmen.../dp/193746007X

Looks like a great school textbook; in this book that I will never read--it says women shouldn't hold public office and you have a moral obligation to not vote for anyone of them that runs. Also argues against women voting at all.

11-30-2017 , 05:31 AM

#1154

ChrisV

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Good God, that bet seems like the freest of money for Keeed.

Quote:

Polls conducted before the allegations became public generally gave Moore an edge of between 5 to 10 percentage points.

8 points is a small underdog even if the allegations have no effect whatsoever.

11-30-2017 , 06:06 AM

#1155

AllTheCheese

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Originally Posted by ChrisV

Good God, that bet seems like the freest of money for Keeed.

8 points is a small underdog even if the allegations have no effect whatsoever.

Hahaha, you are assuming the allegations cannot have a positive effect. I think champ is a dog here, but it's a gross overstatement to call this free money.

11-30-2017 , 06:33 AM

#1156

Former DJ

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AL.com: Interest High in Casting Write-in Votes

http://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/201...ing_write.html

If this is indeed an accurate reflection of where Alabama voters are, it has to be a positive sign for Doug Jones. This is mere speculation, but I suspect a substantial number of Republican voters who had decided they were going to "sit this one out" rather than vote for either Moore or Jones will go ahead and cast a write-in vote for Colonel Busby. In a three-way race with a write-in candidate, that can only help Doug Jones. (Polls over the next 7-10 days will be really interesting ...)

11-30-2017 , 06:54 AM

#1157

spaceman

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Roy Moore now ahead by ~4 points in latest poll, 49 - 45 %, 4% undecided.

11-30-2017 , 07:15 AM

#1158

Csaba

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Quote:

Originally Posted by heehaww

Can't a pedo also be attracted to adults (even if less attracted)?

They obviously can. I saw a documentary about a non-offending pedophile that acknowledged that he was attracted to both kids below a certain age and adults above a certain age.

11-30-2017 , 08:28 AM

#1159

markksman

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Because we shouldn’t upend the installed flag base, is there any chance we can make Puerto Rico a state while having Alabama changed into a territory?

11-30-2017 , 08:30 AM

#1160

ChrisV

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Originally Posted by Csaba

They obviously can. I saw a documentary about a non-offending pedophile that acknowledged that he was attracted to both kids below a certain age and adults above a certain age.

I think the question is kind of ridiculous. Moore isn't a pedophile. I'm not going in an "actually it's ephebophilia" direction here, soliciting sexual activity from a 14 year old is reprehensible whatever you call it. My point is that given no other information about a man than that they were sexually interested in a 14 year old, if asked the question "Is it more likely they will otherwise be interested in 8 year old girls, or adult females?" I think "adult females" is easily a 90% chance.

11-30-2017 , 09:40 AM

#1161

zikzak

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Moore says lesbians, gays, socialists behind sexual misconduct allegations

"When I say they, who are 'they?'" he asked.

"They’re liberals. They don’t hold conservative values. They are the lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender who want to change our culture. They are socialists who want to change our way of life and put man above God and the government is our God. They're the Washington establishment...who don't want to lose their power."

11-30-2017 , 09:44 AM

#1162

ChrisV

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Maybe the United States 2017 is just what happens when you try to cram a super-liberal culture together with a large helping of guilt-inducing, repressive religious nonsense. All this ranting these guys do about sexual immorality etc, I mean I'm not a trained psychologist but something tells me maybe The Enemy Is Within?

11-30-2017 , 09:58 AM

#1163

champstark

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisV

Good God, that bet seems like the freest of money for Keeed.

8 points is a small underdog even if the allegations have no effect whatsoever.

I still think Moore will outperform polls by 5% or so because the deplorables are too embarrassed to say they are voting for a pedophile.

11-30-2017 , 10:33 AM

#1164

Huehuecoyotl

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Quote:

Originally Posted by wheatrich

So the organization that made that book closed down. Why'd it close down?

Quote:

Vision Forum closed in 2013 after Phillips resigned, having admitted to a “lengthy” and “inappropriately romantic and affectionate” relationship with a woman who was not his wife. Shortly thereafter, that woman, Lourdes Torres-Manteufel, sued Phillips and Vision Forum, detailing an emotionally, psychologically, and sexually abusive relationship that started when she was just 15 years old.

https://thinkprogress.org/moore-stud...-135402ed8816/

11-30-2017 , 10:37 AM

#1165

fatkid

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The case for statutory rape.

http://thefederalist.com/2017/11/30/...ote-roy-moore/

Quote:

If elected, Moore would join the ranks of other undignified politicians who have been liars and fornicators. I have a 14-year-old daughter. If I caught him doing what was alleged, for starters I would kick him where it counts. Hard. That being said, I don’t think it’s wrong to vote for Moore.

11-30-2017 , 10:45 AM

#1166

SenorKeeed

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Quote:

Originally Posted by champstark

I still think Moore will outperform polls by 5% or so because the deplorables are too embarrassed to say they are voting for a pedophile.

Deplorables might also be ashamed to admit they're voting for a democrat

11-30-2017 , 10:50 AM

#1167

Huehuecoyotl

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Quote:

Originally Posted by fatkid

The case for statutory rape.

http://thefederalist.com/2017/11/30/...ote-roy-moore/

The Federalist with the quickest shift from "Sometimes God uses evil men for good purposes" to "maybe he's not evil and maybe even good".

11-30-2017 , 10:52 AM

#1168

tomdemaine

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Quote:

Originally Posted by fatkid

The case for statutory rape.

http://thefederalist.com/2017/11/30/...ote-roy-moore/

unreal.

11-30-2017 , 10:53 AM

#1169

suzzer99

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SenorKeeed

Deplorables might also be ashamed to admit they're voting for a democrat

Ha ha oh wow

11-30-2017 , 11:11 AM

#1170

NMcNasty

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Quote:

Originally Posted by fatkid

The case for statutory rape.

http://thefederalist.com/2017/11/30/...ote-roy-moore/

reductio ad abortion

11-30-2017 , 11:31 AM

#1171

DVaut1

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Quote:

Originally Posted by fatkid

The case for statutory rape.

http://thefederalist.com/2017/11/30/...ote-roy-moore/

From the article:

Predicted:

Quote:

Originally Posted by DVaut1

Here's how this will play:

Step one is FAKE NEWS FAKE NEWS FAKE NEWS BEZOS WAPO

Next comes some stuff about how the globalists yuppies just don't understand how ya'll date in the south, remember American pop icon Jerry Lee Lewis and how all the squares beat him up over marrying his 14 year old cousin and goodness gracious great balls of fire he's actually a cherished rock icon, you hypocrites. You celebrate Jerry Lee Lewis (note no actual liberal, leftist or Democrat has probably thought about him in 30 years but he probably got a lifetime achievement award for something or other so game set match). Also the 1970s were a different time and no one remembers them but it was probably full of child sexual assault and no one knew better.

It's equivalent to the locker room talk defense: They'll make ham handed assertions that these are or were just norms and you don't understand them.

I swear this is true but once upon a time like 10 years ago the ULTIMATE right-wing argument was that the left wing was full of degenerate moral relativists. It's amusing how in 10 years they've elevated moral relativism to their highest guiding life principle. We are just so sick to death of people imposing their moral standards on us, for shame.

11-30-2017 , 11:33 AM

#1172

DVaut1

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Also my pop psych spidey sense starts tingling when these jokers start their articles with "if a 30 year old man looked at my 14 year old daughter with lust in his eyes, I would absolutely beat the **** out of him!" UNLESS he was a fine southern gentleman of good repute with a nice job and wanted to make children with her, in which case I would grant him her hand in marriage as is customary in our southern courtship culture.

11-30-2017 , 12:00 PM

#1173

+rep_lol

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Quote:

Originally Posted by zikzak

Moore says lesbians, gays, socialists behind sexual misconduct allegations

"When I say they, who are 'they?'" he asked.

"They’re liberals. They don’t hold conservative values. They are the lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender who want to change our culture. They are socialists who want to change our way of life and put man above God and the government is our God. They're the Washington establishment...who don't want to lose their power."

this is a perfect example of why i ended up completely rejecting christianity at such a young age and feel perfectly great about doing so. they just constantly ****ing lie and reject basic facts in order to form-fit their stupid, warped, hypocritical worldview. like every single one of his accusers has been a lifelong republican voter

it's absolutely disgraceful and these people are a bigger threat to america than ISIS or al qaeda could ever hope to be

"christians", lol (and southern baptists in particular). ****ing human garbage

11-30-2017 , 01:37 PM

#1174

OmgGlutten!

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up to 80 on predictit.

11-30-2017 , 01:49 PM

#1175

heehaww

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisV

I think the question is kind of ridiculous.

It wasn't a real question, I probably should have just been direct instead of trying to go all Socrates. My point is Moore having sex with adults is entirely irrelevant to the allegations.

If he wins then lol Alabama and lol humans, as always.

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