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04-25-2013 , 02:27 PM
Belcher vs Cane...?
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04-25-2013 , 02:35 PM
Ment Kang.
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04-25-2013 , 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Swiiftx
What just_mo said. Just rewatched Belcher vs Luiz Cane(free fight UFC), and first thing I noticed, Belcher doesn't seem all that, even if Cane was actually a decent fighter. 2. Rogan and Gold commentary is so poor, Cane is winning and controlling the fight for 2 rounds and all they can talk about is how Belcher can take a punch, how he's comfortable on the ground, and that he can focus on the standup now because of that, even after losing both standup and grappling.
Do you mean Denis Kang?

http://www.ufc.com/media/ufc-159-belcher-kang-free

kang opened as a -500 favorite (closed at -241).

EDIT: also iirc, kang wasn't 100% for that fight. he was sick or injured. belcher looked pretty bad until the sudden submission, but that was over 4 years ago. he has improved quite a bit since then.

Last edited by anteatereater; 04-25-2013 at 03:08 PM.
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04-25-2013 , 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by just_mo
There is no ****ing way Sonnen would be a favorite over "quite a few" top 10 LHWs.

Jones is -1100.
Machida would be a massive favorite stylistically.
Davis is a better wrestler with subs (Sonnen's weakness).
Henderson he would have a chance because it's stylistically favorable but Hendersons still a slight fave.
Rashad big fave cuz wrestling about even and Rashad has striking/athleticism/youth.
Gus way better striking and has solid wrestling, he's a fave.
Glover, like Machida, stylistic poison.

That leaves Bader, Nog, Shogun. Nog is a good stylistic matchup for Sonnen, so maybe. Shogun has a guard but can be taken down so that's winnable, but I still think Shogun is favored. Bader hits hard but gases, wrestling would be close.

So we have 3 probably fairly close lines and 7 fighters who would no doubt be favored over Sonnen.
Disagree, I would happily take sonnen at even money vs anyone at LHW but jones/rashad/vinny. And would take him at +200-+225vs rashad
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04-25-2013 , 03:12 PM
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Disagree, I would happily take sonnen at even money vs anyone at LHW but jones/rashad/vinny. And would take him at +200-+225vs rashad
Sonnen-Machida or Sonnen-Shogun could be interesting.

I wouldn't mind seeing Sonnen-Wandy. That fight could sell.

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04-25-2013 , 03:14 PM
Machida would make Sonnen look like an amateur. He has way too good foot work and TDD to get constantly taken down by Sonnen. Machidas strike precision and timing, which imo might even be better than Andersons, would pick apart Sonnen. We saw what happened when Bader tried to rush him.
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04-25-2013 , 03:18 PM
I don't think we can really compare sonnen/bader... Sonnen is on a different level when it comes to mma wrestling.
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04-25-2013 , 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by yoyobo
Disagree, I would happily take sonnen at even money vs anyone at LHW but jones/rashad/vinny. And would take him at +200-+225vs rashad
You would be making an incredibly costly mistake.
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04-25-2013 , 03:41 PM
What's the line on Sonnen getting a takedown during the fight?
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04-25-2013 , 03:50 PM
+140?
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04-25-2013 , 04:07 PM
Matt Mitrione Suspended No Longer; Will Face Brendan Schaub at UFC on Fox 8 (in July)

http://www.lowkickmma.com/UFC/matt_m...n_fox_8_298355
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04-25-2013 , 04:10 PM
Matchup sounds about right. Schaub should be the favorite, but if Mitrione comes out as a big underdog, I might play him.
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04-25-2013 , 04:15 PM
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Matchup sounds about right. Schaub should be the favorite, but if Mitrione comes out as a big underdog, I might play him.
That's weird. I would have assumed Mitrione would be the favorite.

Also: UFC 159 main card faceoffs: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vV5WILqJysc

Belcher is bigger than I realized compared to Bisping.

The ending of the video is funny.
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04-25-2013 , 04:22 PM
I think Schaub is going to takedown Mitrione and control him there, basically do what he did to Johnson. If he decides to stand up though, his chances will diminish quite quickly as Mittrione has the heavier hands and better chin.
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04-25-2013 , 04:48 PM
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Machida would make Sonnen look like an amateur.
That's a fight I'd love to see (actually, Sonnen vs any named opponent would be awesome at LHW) but for once I don't agree with you.

Obviously Machida is all about the counter attack but I can't recall anyone ever being in his face non stop where Machida had to actually do something about it quickly and I don't think the Machida that showed up against Henderson would be able to pull that off. That as a co-main event would be so awesome though.

Also, when you guys say "I went back and watched x vs y" is this because you torrent all of the events or what?

Do some of you guys order all the PPVs or only certain ones or just read the reports the following day? Just interested to know.
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04-25-2013 , 04:53 PM
I can't buy PPV in my country.

I do keep a library of the fights.
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04-25-2013 , 05:02 PM
Love Nelson, everytime he's on a post fight podium or anything, it looks like they dragged the closest bum they could find on the street to fight for them.
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04-25-2013 , 05:09 PM
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Also, when you guys say "I went back and watched x vs y" is this because you torrent all of the events or what?

Do some of you guys order all the PPVs or only certain ones or just read the reports the following day? Just interested to know.
Fortunately all UFC broadcasts are free in Germany (for a week or so)... other than that there are mma torrent communities ^^
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04-25-2013 , 05:24 PM
ye ufc is free in my country too if you pay $5 bucks of whatever for that channel package.
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04-25-2013 , 05:45 PM
Machida would be like -300 against Sonnen at least. And there would still be value there.
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04-25-2013 , 07:09 PM
I get all the events with a £10/month package or whatever I pay. Can't remember. How much is each PPV in the US? $69 or something? Think I remember seeing that for a Mayweather fight.
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04-25-2013 , 07:47 PM
Adding 0.5u on Garcia by decision at +417.

Thinking about betting Bedford by decision +376.
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04-25-2013 , 08:36 PM
49.99 + tax for a ppv.
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04-25-2013 , 09:25 PM
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49.99 + tax for a ppv.
DAYUM!
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04-25-2013 , 10:44 PM
That's over half the price of the cheapest tickets to go live, totally ridiculous

@Pierce i'll check whether I can get enough $ on Pinn to make your Nelson bet for you in time and let you know

Added 1.3u to win 1u on a Khabilov/Miller parlay, don't see either losing really

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