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Originally Posted by AlwaysTwinNSpired
I watched the new show on Esquire last nite..... Mixed emotions... I think there is way more good than negative, but having what is suppose to be 1 of the games greatest minds in Christian Hellmers doing witchcraft before a race or sprinkling fairy dust on his racing form is a bit LOL.... The Rotunda family or however u spell it, was a bit degen imho. I mean, what kind of major horseplayer does his capping, & then gives his selections to another player to formulate a ticket & to decide how it should be played? (i know a syndicate works like this), but when was the last time Pete Rose ever wanted some1 to bat for him, or when was the last time MJ wanted some1 else to take the last shot?? NEVER!!!
Any show on (semi) mainstream television about betting the ponies is a huge plus to us die-hards. Im hoping this show will create a boom... Sorta like Poker After Dark & The Big Game did for poker. I noticed Xpressbet, TwinSpires both were running adverts during every commercial break, the same way Full Tilt & PS did. The more "fish" we bring into the game the more dead money we bring into it & thats a positive for all of us.
A show on the Esquire Network is never going to create a boom. I personally thought the show was horrible and if I was a non horseplayer it would move me even further away from the game.
- Whoever was going to be involved with this show (bettors/teams of bettors) should have all been in the same location during the recording of a race day, given the same bankroll to start with, do the same as the season goes on and calculate the bankrolls at the end. Not blaming the bettors/teams but I think the writers/producers could have come up with a better concept.
- It seems like they are going to be introducing new personalities as the season goes on which makes even less sense to me. As horseplayers we all know everyday isn't a winning day. It would of been good to stick with the same group of people every episode to show the ups and downs but it also gives everyone a chance to see that some people actually do turn a nice profit over an extended period of time.
- I don't understand why they would follow Christian Hellmers at the Breeders Cup Challenge and two groups of people on Cigar Mile day. It's not like they are on the same day and the strategy of betting is completely different. Pick one or the other. Should have made it either a contest based show or a cash based show. Just like poker...Tournaments and cash could not be more different.
- The on screen personalities that were picked are horrible. Hellmers is a wack job that no one can relate to. When he made the comment at the end of the show..."To be able to earn over $150K on my brain alone...that's pretty awesome", made me sick. Yea buddy your brain alone helped you come in second in a contest... This isn't chess. I'm pretty sure the trainers, jockeys and most importantly horses had something to do with it as well.
- Conte's interaction with the waitresses was extremely awkward. I don't want to see a shorter/fatter version of Gene Simmons hit on girls at a restaurant. Hes on this show for a reason... That certainly isn't one of them.
- The diner scene with the Rotondo's was horrible. In one scene they are telling the world how they can win 100K on the Pk6 and then the next they are trying to stay alive with Unlimited Budget who was even money in the Demoiselle followed up by them getting knocked out of the pick 6 because they singled another even money favorite who lost in the Cigar Mile (Groupie Doll). That is some recipe for a 100K score. Then Rotondo Sr is screaming I think he got it... I think he got it... Did he not realize Groupie Doll was a female?
-the fact that these races took place 14 months ago is a turnoff as well. Why not film during 2013? It certainly wouldn't have taken 2 months to edit and be ready to air last night.
-Conte doing 3 horse exacta boxes... Is he serious? Exacta boxes with 2 horses are one of the worst bets in all of racing and he is doing 3 horse exact boxes
Overall very disappointed.