pre is fine, doesn't play well enough to squeeze, and coldcalling light is pretty common at micros.

just raise the flop, it's PLO2 after all. I wouldn't be surprised if bottom 2 snap-jams, lol, def all sets and A4. Most players wanna see a turn with their FD regardless of the price.

I'd flat turn and bet all rivers when checked to

I think as played villain probably has nuts already making it less likely to have two pair or set also. So when the 3 hits the river a full house is less likely but it's definately a scary card for me. I would probably fold river though if I had called the turn and he potted the river.

I've been thinking about this, do I really want to build the pot this early in the hand? I mean in PLO the turn and river really change the situations quite a lot and going from nuts to nothing is very easy. But you still prefer to get as much money in the pot as possible on the flop?

I also think that flatting turn might have been better. But what then if he pots the river? Hero calling is definately one of my leaks since I always seem to pay them off.

Let me re-iterate: It's PLO2, nanostakes. People make spewy calls, like really spewy calls, and you have 3 opponents to oblige you. The fact that later streets can change the current nuts isn't a reason not to push a clear equity edge.

Flatting is a play reserved for solid opponents when you wanna have deception and keep getting action from a wider range. In other words, the big blind should be at least a quarter for me to consider it.

Getting lead into OTR is very situational and opponent dependent.

Hi guys!

So I posted this hand and I'm kind of stuck on the flop and turn action. I think I should almost always just cbet these flops. But once I get called I'm not sure on what to do on the turn. It feels like committing fully or fold.

Any thoughts?

I'm beginning to switch to NEVER slow play nut flushes and below.

2/2 Live:
i flopped top set with nfd with no straight draws possible. i thought i was in the drivers seat. i let the other guy catch a higher set. bye bye stack

since the theme I'm getting here is stack preservation (ie: c/c flopped nut straight if no redraws), then playing fast seems to be the best policy at low stakes?

@ronz: barreling turn is pretty std, you can still get value from FDs and overpairs and obv wanna protect. River spots are more interesting if it gets that far. As played, c/c turn.

@AAsuited: slowplaying those spots isn't necessarily bad, you're prob just a little results-oriented. Depends on the rank of your set too, slowplaying TT as flopped top set is def more dangerous than KK. Also, you can still play potcontrol and just flat a turn stab if an overcard comes.

And yea, always fast play at microstakes, most players there overvalue the relative strength of their hand, so you miss a ton of value by nit forcing them to put more money in the middle early. Flopped boats+ might be worth slowplaying in some spots, obv.

I'm a losing player 3tabling at .10/.25 6player @ bovada.
started with $1200. now at $875.

but a winning player at 2/2 live 9 player.

wtf? variance at bovada?
or are players at .25 better than 2/2 Live?

Hahaha, wouldn't be surprised if that was the case!

How many hands have you played on Bovada? Prob variance.

Do you have any reads on the cutoff here? Has he/she been making this sort of play enough that he's likely attempting to steal against you? Or, have you been folding a lot on the turn in this situation? If yes, consider flat calling and then check/calling again on the river. From my perspective, this is probably a better play than raising because if you raise he/she will fold unless he/she has a 6. With that bet-sizing, the CO isn't getting good odds if he/she has clubs without also a really good straight draw. By flat calling, you will potentially win more money than with a raise and you are risking less. The downside of course is that you'll be letting clubs suck out, as well as a few potential straight draws or pocket pairs.

Hey guys! couple quick questions for this hand....

PokerStars - $1.38+$0.12|10/20 PL Hi (2 max) - Omaha Hi - 2 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BB): 112 BB
SB: 38 BB (VPIP: 68.63, PFR: 34.31, 3Bet Preflop: 15.69, Hands: 109)

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has J 8 7 T

SB raises to 3 BB, Hero calls 2 BB

Flop: (6 BB, 2 players) 6 5 7
Hero checks, SB bets 6 BB, Hero calls 6 BB

Turn: (18 BB, 2 players) A
Hero checks, SB bets 18 BB

Should I be 3betting this hand preflop? I don't think he's folding much of his range to a 3bet and we are 44% equity vs his 34% pfr, so I think it's just best to call and see where we stand on the flop.

neither value betting or bluffing seems to make sense otf, so I guess check/calling is ok

His cbet% was 83 and turn cbet was 3/3 so there can be a some weaker hands or air in his range, but I don't think it's a big enough part of his range for us to be able to call.

played well?
thanks!

Hi guys,

I have a few more questions if thats ok for you guys.

- What is the best strat to adjust vs an aggressive 3b range like around 10%?
Should I call any doublesuited hands and/or A-suited hands?

- When do you start to 4b hands like KKQTs/AKJTs or do you still prefer to flat it
in Position versus an aggressive 3b range? If we 4b, is it a 4b/c always 100bb
deep?

- I have a hard time putting people on a donk bet range? And do I need one?

Thanks again for your help!

@tyler: flatting is ok, but if you have any fold equity pre at all u should 3-ball. ucan also make him fold equity on some dry boards when u miss urself. flop call is fine w/o sizing reads, turn is a fold

@peez:

-u can flat wider IP, OOP u should 4bet wider. flatting OOP depends on how good ur opponent is.

-I start 4betting wider vs like an 8% range. 100bb deep you usually just have to with it vs the 5bet, unless u have KK72r or the like.

-donking is a complex topic, I can say that I rarely donkbet HU at midstakes, but often multiways. pay attention to donkbet% and see if villain is weak, strong or balanced.

wow.. that would have been a check/fold for me.

why float the flop?
you are only open ended w/o a redraw. and 2 of your outs make a flush possible

He has a pair, 3 overcards, and oesd (nut gutter) in a HU pot. Can't just go around folding that kinda stuff

Can anyone tell me what I did wrong here? Do I chalk this one up to variance, or could I have played it better?

Thanks for any input.

Revolution Gaming Network - $0.04 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

CO: 98.5 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 3)
Hero (BTN): 137 BB
SB: 26.25 BB (VPIP: 53.13, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 32)
BB: 95.75 BB (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 5)
UTG: 27.5 BB (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 6)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q J Q 8

fold, CO calls 1 BB, Hero raises to 4.5 BB, fold, fold, CO calls 3.5 BB

Flop: (10.5 BB, 2 players) T 8 9
CO checks, Hero bets 5 BB, CO calls 5 BB

Turn: (20.5 BB, 2 players) 2
CO checks, Hero bets 15 BB, CO calls 15 BB

River: (50.5 BB, 2 players) 6
CO bets 33.75 BB, Hero raises to 67.5 BB, CO raises to 74 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 6.5 BB

CO shows T 7 A 8 (Flush, Ace High) (Pre 49%, Flop 38%, Turn 23%)
Hero shows Q J Q 8 (Flush, Queen High) (Pre 51%, Flop 62%, Turn 78%)
CO wins 185.5 BB

Just flat call or maybe even fold the river.

When you raise, what worse hands (if any) will call?

I should have folded the river as soon as he bet. I was just pissed that he hung in the hand. Stupid me.

Raising was a lot bigger mistake than calling.
River donks usually tend to be the nuts, unless you have a read that says otherwise.

The river raise is beyond terrible. It really is ABSURDLY bad. Basically a bluff.

Thanks. I got stuff I need to work on.

Villain is playing with somewhat competent stats over 100 hands or so, don't remember playing him before...I felt sick after I vbet the river because my hand is kind of face up, I am very capped after checking back the turn and since his range has no air in it, it's hard for him to rep a bluff and thus I can see him opting to go for a c/r with his value range which can go as thin as QQ, maybe thinner...anyway that's how I would play in this spot in his shoes. Help me with this spot please.

PokerStars - $0.50 PL Hi FAST (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 31.86 BB (VPIP: 30.00, PFR: 10.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 10)
SB: 239.36 BB (VPIP: 24.56, PFR: 15.76, 3Bet Preflop: 3.83, Hands: 2,526)
BB: 118.84 BB (VPIP: 38.46, PFR: 18.80, 3Bet Preflop: 2.11, Hands: 237)
UTG: 416.6 BB (VPIP: 22.47, PFR: 13.48, 3Bet Preflop: 5.41, Hands: 91)
Hero (MP): 208.74 BB
CO: 98 BB (VPIP: 49.04, PFR: 36.54, 3Bet Preflop: 2.94, Hands: 106)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A J 9 A

UTG raises to 3 BB, Hero raises to 9.5 BB, fold, BTN calls 9.5 BB, fold, fold, UTG calls 6.5 BB

Flop: (30 BB, 3 players) 9 4 K
UTG checks, Hero bets 13 BB, fold, UTG calls 13 BB

Turn: (56 BB, 2 players) K
UTG checks, Hero checks

River: (56 BB, 2 players) Q
UTG checks, Hero bets 28 BB, fold

Hero wins 53.48 BB

I think the villain would lead the river with his valuerange, as he can't expect you to bluff this river often and he can still get paid off by your nutflushes as there is some Kx and stuff like JT of clubs in villain's range.

Imo you are good most of the time after he checks river, definitely vbet, I would even go a bit smaller in terms of sizing.

I wouldn't really expect to get checkraised in this spot like ever, but if you do, I guess you have to fold. I mean he reps very little but its PLO50 and people really aren't balanced in these spots.

I am new though, so take everything I have to say with a grain of salt. : p

How much better is 9TJAss over 8TJAss (both suited to the Ace)?

I tend to raise with 9TJAss and just call with 8TJAss if there are limpers.
Raise with 8TJAss too?