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04-06-2011 , 12:52 PM

daryn

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yet another example where i'm baffled that people would pronounce "cob" and the second syllable of "pecan" similarly.

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04-06-2011 , 01:19 PM

Wyman

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yet another example where i'm baffled that people would pronounce "cob" and the second syllable of "pecan" similarly.

p'cahn is one of a few normal pronunciations.

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04-06-2011 , 03:39 PM

daryn

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p'cahn is one of a few normal pronunciations.

yeah, i know. i say it like p'cahn. i guess my issue is with pronouncing cob the same way. caaaahb.. :shudders:

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04-06-2011 , 03:43 PM

oddjob

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i ******edly thought you mean, people pronounced it cab.

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04-06-2011 , 03:50 PM

Wyman

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yeah, i know. i say it like p'cahn. i guess my issue is with pronouncing cob the same way. caaaahb.. :shudders:

how do you say cob?

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04-06-2011 , 03:51 PM

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yeah, i know. i say it like p'cahn. i guess my issue is with pronouncing cob the same way. caaaahb.. :shudders:

I don't stretch out the ahhh sound, but what's wrong with pronouncing "cob" like "lob"?

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04-06-2011 , 03:57 PM

daryn

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i do pronounce cob like lob. i'm aware i'm in the minority, but i just don't pronounce the short o sound like i'm at the dentist saying ahhhh.

it usually comes up when people talk online about certain words rhyming and i read it and go WTF??

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04-06-2011 , 03:59 PM

dukemagic

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so you say cob/lob more like lobe (as in earlobe)?

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04-06-2011 , 04:02 PM

daryn

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haha no that would be even more ******ed.

basically the difference to me is the difference between saying ahh and saying aww

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04-06-2011 , 04:02 PM

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I assume like "cawb" which is basically unheard of in the US outside of New England.

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04-06-2011 , 04:03 PM

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daryn

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like a classic example is father/bother. how can those 2 words possibly rhyme??? yet most of the country says they do, amazingly.

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04-06-2011 , 04:03 PM

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i forgot you live in boston, where they speak like retahds

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04-06-2011 , 04:06 PM

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like a classic example is father/bother. how can those 2 words possibly rhyme??? yet most of the country says they do, amazingly.

how could they possibly not rhyme?

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04-06-2011 , 04:09 PM

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haha no that would be even more ******ed.

basically the difference to me is the difference between saying ahh and saying aww

Huh, maybe I'm missing something because the "a" sound in both of those is the same to me. The difference is more in how I finish the word. The ahh sound is a little flatter, I guess.

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like a classic example is father/bother. how can those 2 words possibly rhyme??? yet most of the country says they do, amazingly.

So you're saying you pronounce bother in such a way that it doesn't rhyme with father? I agree with you that the English language is silly in that those words do rhyme when they're spelled with different vowels but the reality is that they do. And if you do pronounce bother differently, how does it sound? Like brother/mother or like motor/boater?

Maybe this does just boil down to a boston thing.

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04-06-2011 , 04:18 PM

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Wyman

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yes boston explains it all.

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04-06-2011 , 04:46 PM

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Daryn has a point, but so do the 300 million people in America who don't talk like him.

I do find it funny that I say bother and brother completely differently

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04-06-2011 , 07:25 PM

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i ******edly thought you mean, people pronounced it cab.

I did too until I read your post.

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i forgot you live in boston, where they speak like retahds

And again, until you pointed out 'Boston,' this conversation was very confusing to me.

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04-06-2011 , 07:51 PM

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And if you do pronounce bother differently, how does it sound? Like brother/mother or like motor/boater?

hilarious

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04-06-2011 , 07:54 PM

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hilarious

Wait, maybe I'm a ****** because I'm from Boston. But does anyone not pronounce it "Baw-ther"?

And isn't father "Faw-ther"?

I really don't see a way that these two words could possibly not rhyme.

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04-06-2011 , 07:57 PM

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I really don't see a way that these two words could possibly not rhyme.

i also find this hilarious, but i have definitely been on the other side of this 'wtf? i'm baffled' coin myself many times.

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04-06-2011 , 07:59 PM

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Huh, maybe I'm missing something because the "a" sound in both of those is the same to me. The difference is more in how I finish the word. The ahh sound is a little flatter, I guess.

So you're saying you pronounce bother in such a way that it doesn't rhyme with father? I agree with you that the English language is silly in that those words do rhyme when they're spelled with different vowels but the reality is that they do. And if you do pronounce bother differently, how does it sound? Like brother/mother or like motor/boater?

Maybe this does just boil down to a boston thing.

The oed has: /ˈfɑːðə(r)/ and /ˈbɒðə(r)/

I guess they're different, but not different enough to not rhyme.

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04-06-2011 , 08:05 PM

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The oed has: /ˈfɑːðə(r)/ and /ˈbɒðə(r)/

I have no idea how to interpret that.

This might also be a good time to mention that I'm hard of hearing and had speech therapy as a kid, so I'm certainly not as capable of distinguishing and pronouncing very subtle phonetic differences as most of you. But I'm still confused as to how bother/father don't sound alike (lol English), and how "p'cahn" and cob/lob don't have the same (or at least very similar) vowel sound.

Is it dialect that varies by region? Is it a subtle difference that many people don't bother enunciating? Is it a subtle difference in sound that I'm incapable of hearing? I'm genuinely curious.

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04-06-2011 , 08:09 PM

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In "reality" there's a slight difference, but they both clearly rhyme.

I'm guessing that in Boston people pronounce father like JFK would, and bother like everyone else.

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04-06-2011 , 08:10 PM

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Faw-ther vs. Fah-ther ?

I say the latter. Like I would at the dentist (say ahhhh).

Do people go to the dentist and saw "awwww" as in they're in love?