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04-07-2011 , 05:22 PM

#101

Peter Harris

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Wyman,

Thanks for the chart. It helps. I write phonetic script so am happy to chip in on pronunciation arguments. Having a very, very neutral English accent helps my case some, but both I and Mrs. Harris pronounce 'caught' and 'court' the same...

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04-07-2011 , 06:30 PM

#102

Yeti

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dids you are really good at this extracting lark. now i feel bad for being so vocal that you should absolutely never mod again

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04-07-2011 , 06:46 PM

#103

Dids

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I'm not sure clicking checkboxes is a skill, but thanks?

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04-07-2011 , 06:52 PM

#104

schef

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This thread is really confusing for non-native speakers.

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04-07-2011 , 08:07 PM

#105

DoTheMath

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Originally Posted by General Tsao

I'm very much considering going through the past 2 pages of this thread and making an audio recording of how these words should be pronounced. The "fort" "fought" one is especially curious.

Wjat are, you, some sort of accent Nazi?

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04-07-2011 , 08:15 PM

#106

DoTheMath

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Originally Posted by Wyman

gary, larry, carry, tarry, barry, marry

Well tarry can go two ways depending on meaning. If you meant defer leaving, yes, it belongs. If you meant black and sticky, then it goes with starry.

Not sure that marry belongs with this group, given its etymology.

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04-07-2011 , 08:20 PM

#107

General Tsao

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Originally Posted by DoTheMath

Wjat are, you, some sort of accent Nazi?

lol wat.

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04-07-2011 , 08:38 PM

#108

prohornblower

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This thread (and these threads that pop up every month on 2+2) = "Everyone who doesn't talk exactly like me is a moron."

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04-07-2011 , 08:40 PM

#109

DoTheMath

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Originally Posted by Fleebrog

One time, I was talking to somebody and mentioned a person's oeuvre, pronounced "oooh vruh". It is pronounced approximately that way in online dictionaries, both with phonetic symbols and in their audible examples. The guy I was talking too was not understanding what I was saying, or pretending not to understand, then he said "oh, you mean OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOV" in the most overexaggerated, French-y, Alex Trebek-y way possible. This might be how the word is pronounced in French, not sure. But I was right damnit, at least according to merriam-webster.com and yourdictionary.com.

**tilt**

'Oeuvre' is a french word and to pronouce it correctly you have to use a vowel sound that doesn't get used much in native english words. The closest sound in the pronunciation chart in post 92 is probably represented by the upside down 'e'. It's not an OOOO at all. It is somewhere around could/should/would with a bit of book thrown in.

Given Alex Trebeck's origins, I expect he knows this.

The two pronunciations you've shown are both closer to ouvre (singular imperative of to open), than to oeuvre. The closest common french word you might have heard of is the plural of egg: oeufs.

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04-07-2011 , 08:46 PM

#110

PTW

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Was in South Carolina last year and often heard 'scoozie' instead of 'excuse me'.

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04-07-2011 , 08:48 PM

#111

DoTheMath

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Originally Posted by Wyman

wtf is a barra? And I'd suspect that the first 'a' in 'barra' is pronounced like the first 'o' in borrow.

Barra is an island in the Outer Hebrides. That supplies us with two reasons why the 'a' in the first syllable sounds like what a sheep is alleged to say.

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04-07-2011 , 08:51 PM

#112

DoTheMath

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Originally Posted by General Tsao

lol wat.

What*

You said you'd tell us what the words should sound like.

I didn't know there was only one correct sound for a word.

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04-07-2011 , 08:52 PM

#113

DoTheMath

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Originally Posted by PTW

Was in South Carolina last year and often heard 'scoozie' instead of 'excuse me'.

Must have been the Italian part of SC.

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04-07-2011 , 09:10 PM

#114

PTW

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Originally Posted by DoTheMath

Must have been the Italian part of SC.

I guess phonetically it was more like 'skewzee'

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04-07-2011 , 11:19 PM

#115

Fleebrog

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Originally Posted by DoTheMath

"oooh vruh" is not exactly right even in English, I give you that, it's just close to one of the accepted pronunciations of the word in English (as close as I'm likely to get if I'm speaking normally). Basically I was trying to communicate that the "vruh" sound is there, or allowed to be there if you're speaking English.

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04-07-2011 , 11:24 PM

#116

DoTheMath

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Originally Posted by Fleebrog

Yea, it's there, just de-emphasize it.

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04-08-2011 , 12:41 AM

#117

*COINFLIPS*

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on-ve-lope

care-a-mel

creek = crick

last one is more a regional thing i think

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04-08-2011 , 01:02 AM

#118

NozeCandy

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I'm not sure what else to make of this thread other than lol Boston, lol Ireland, and that nobody down here says N'awlins nor Cawnbread.

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04-08-2011 , 03:33 AM

#119

Peter Harris

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Originally Posted by DoTheMath

It wouldn't be a schwa as that is the short "uh" sound.

the correct would be:

/ɜːvrə/

3: as in "bird" "ir"
v as in "vale" "v"
rə as in "rut" "re"

irrrrrrrrrrvruh

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04-08-2011 , 07:02 AM

#120

Yeti

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i really really hate the pronunciation 'carmelization'

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04-08-2011 , 10:32 AM

#121

Wyman

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Originally Posted by Dids

EXTRACTORATED.

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Originally Posted by Dids

This thread reminds me of the time in AC when daryn was getting into it with the floor at the Borg, who upon hearing daryn's unmistakably thick Boston accent accused him of being a Giants fan from New York.

lol

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04-08-2011 , 11:26 AM

#122

youtalkfunny

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How many people read the thread title, and thought this would be about me?

(If you didn't know, the name was spawned by my Boston accent...and my knees have gone so bad, I'm toying with the idea of changing it to youWalkfunny)

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04-08-2011 , 11:33 AM

#123

Dids

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You're the reason there's "other there" in the title, so that it wasn't just a post with your name on it.

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04-08-2011 , 11:55 AM

#124

Yeti

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Originally Posted by daryn

here, listen to this:

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=APIRIBMX

i just recorded myself saying "mary.. marry.. merry.. and lisa marie for good measure"

yar

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04-13-2011 , 10:50 PM

#125

deucedeuces

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do views and shoes rhyme? i got in an argument with two girls who insist they do.

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