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09-19-2010 , 02:33 PM

#1576

Ben Young

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I know this isn't a grammar or punctuation question, but I figured this thread would be a good place to ask. What are the correct pronunciations of Wednesday and February?

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09-19-2010 , 02:50 PM

#1577

jontsef

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Wednesday is the same everywhere. First d is silent. Some places pronounce the day part differently though.

For February, pronouncing the first r will score you points on NPR, but it's not really common in the US.

http://dictionary.reference.com/brow...src=ref&ch=dic

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09-19-2010 , 02:51 PM

#1578

nuisance

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I use a silent D in Wednesday. I also use a silent first R in February. But it could just be because of where I grew up and my accent.

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09-19-2010 , 04:50 PM

#1579

lonely_but_rich

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Originally Posted by Pointland32

Who are 'The co-operative 8' and why should I care that they're ready to eat some poppadums?

You bought them from the co-op and there are 8 pompawhatevers in a package is how I read it.

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09-19-2010 , 04:56 PM

#1580

Pointland32

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Originally Posted by lonely_but_rich

You bought them from the co-op and there are 8 pompawhatevers in a package is how I read it.

It should say "ready-to-eat" to clear any (unlikely) confusion.

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09-19-2010 , 05:04 PM

#1581

lonely_but_rich

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Do you know how much hyphens cost to print?

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09-19-2010 , 05:11 PM

#1582

Pointland32

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They must have spent their hyphen budget on the one between "co" and "operative".

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09-19-2010 , 11:46 PM

#1583

atakdog

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Originally Posted by SoloAJ

"Meanwhile, the Eagles head to Detroit looking to even their record at 1-1. And starting at quarterback will be Vick, who last started the final game of the 2006 season for the Falcons against, ironically enough, the Eagles."

For bonus points, spot the subtle punctuation mistake here. (It seems that nobody gets this one right.)

Spoiler:

Last edited by atakdog; 09-19-2010 at 11:53 PM.

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09-20-2010 , 12:01 AM

#1584

Zeth

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In your spoiler is an example of an obsolete grammar rule already most of the way to extinction. Language evolves.

Spoiler:

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09-20-2010 , 12:15 AM

#1585

lonely_but_rich

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I would not have noticed differently sized dashes.

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09-20-2010 , 08:01 AM

#1586

SoloAJ

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I'm with Zeth on this one, but I will say that I rarely argue against a traditional grammarist. I'm okay with atak on this; I just don't feel the need to follow what he's saying.

Oh, and I didn't know it until he posted it.

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09-20-2010 , 10:09 AM

#1587

Josh J

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i knew it and noticed it, but im smarter than you guys. i also scoff at the use of ironically there. i guess all coincidences are ironies among the plebeians.

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09-20-2010 , 12:04 PM

#1588

buffett

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Originally Posted by daryn

ugh you know what i hate that i see a lot more now? "your guys" used instead of "your" (2nd person plural possessive)

Southern American English is best for this type of stuff, since we can just say "y'all's" in this situation. For example... Are we meeting at our house or y'all's?

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09-20-2010 , 02:17 PM

#1589

daryn

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or you could just use regular english and say "are we meeting at our house or yours?"

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09-20-2010 , 03:06 PM

#1590

SoCalRugger

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This is coming up at work and nobody agrees with me. I would use an in each case based on the phonetic rule "The choice of article is actually based upon the phonetic (sound) quality of the first letter in a word, not on the orthographic (written) representation of the letter." Co-workers either don't think that rule is correct, or don't think it applies to acronyms.

"used a RDD" vs "used an RDD"
"use a HRF file" vs "use an HRF file"

I'll let OOT be the judge.

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09-20-2010 , 03:22 PM

#1591

private joker

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Originally Posted by SoCalRugger

I would use "an." It does apply to acronyms because when you say it out loud, it doesn't matter if you're saying "eff" or "F." An FTP site is an FTP site. I would say "that's an HD show" but "that's a hi-def show."

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09-20-2010 , 03:42 PM

#1592

GMan42

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PJ is totally right. Your co-workers are ******ed.

The only reason "an" exists is for the words to better flow when spoken out loud. The written representation should exactly follow the way it's spoken.

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09-20-2010 , 06:33 PM

#1593

SoloAJ

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Correct. I just taught that to my freshmen last week. Neato.

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09-20-2010 , 07:44 PM

#1594

baumer

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Lol, I can't imagine multiple people telling me I was wrong in this scenario.
You must have felt like they were leveling you.

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09-22-2010 , 03:20 PM

#1595

Pointland32

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Ironically, soon after my post about using "less" or "fewer" when talking about chip stacks, ESPN used both in the same WSOP episode last night:

"Chip Count: 51,000 - Less than 10 Big Blinds"

Lon: And with fewer than 20 Big Blinds, she moves all in.

Which one is correct?

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09-22-2010 , 03:28 PM

#1596

daryn

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when using something that is countable, fewer is correct.

ironically is used incorrectly in your post.

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09-22-2010 , 03:44 PM

#1597

lastcardcharlie

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Originally Posted by daryn

when using something that is countable, fewer is correct.

So, fewer integers but less real numbers?

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09-22-2010 , 03:56 PM

#1598

MikeyObviously

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Originally Posted by daryn

when using something that is countable, fewer is correct.

ironically is used incorrectly in your post.

I believe you were successfully leveled...I believe this because he put it in italics.

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09-22-2010 , 04:28 PM

#1599

daryn

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Originally Posted by MikeyObviously

I believe you were successfully leveled...I believe this because he put it in italics.

i understand that but mentioned it anyway. i can differentiate italics from normal text.

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09-22-2010 , 04:28 PM

#1600

daryn

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Originally Posted by lastcardcharlie

So, fewer integers but less real numbers?

more like less/more for "amounts"

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