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09-03-2019 , 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Malucci
Chances are those girls won’t tell you if a friend of theirs has done a sugar baby relationship type deal from that site. No chance at all that she tells you if she’s been a sugar baby herself.
Of course agree with the second part. Not so much with the first as long as no names are revealed.
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09-03-2019 , 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Fossilkid93
A little x-post from PGC, where I started a mini-blog:

As for my personal life, it's getting quite serious with the girl who started as a FWB. I'm not sure how much I've mentioned about her ITT, but quite frankly, she's amazing. We surpassed the 3 month mark and I was starting to get feelings so ~2 weeks ago I asked her if she's thought about taking the next step. She seemed open to the idea, but not ready to commit just yet. Well, the following week she had an adorable way of wanting to take the next step. When we were lying in bed she says "Can I tell you something? I don't just like you, I reeeeally like you". (translation is a bit tricky cuz Spanish)

I could write a novel on the things I like about this girl, but I'll keep it short. She's 25 but has a very evolved outlook on life, seems much more mature that I was at that age (I'm 35 now). Really liberal, well thought out viewpoints on politics and life in general. She also doesn't seem to want kids, which I think is a plus for me. She's not the hottest girl in the world, but I find her very attractive and she looks great naked. And she's in incredible shape, she did the CDMX marathon last week.

Lastly, she's just incredible in the sack and has a motor that might surpass even mine. Just has an insatiable appetite, but just the right amount. She's gotten me to do things I didn't think were possible. (i.e. I finish inside of her, but am still so turned on I just keep going and finish again)

Most important of all, communication is top notch. We've discussed everything under the sun: past relationships, other sexual escapades, fantasies, etc. We've discussed a bit the idea of an open relationship. I'm on the fence, but feel like whatever we decide will work ok b/c the communication and openness is there and neither of us are jealous.

So yah, pretty excited to see where this goes. It will be nice to get out of the Tinder grind. Of course, the last week or 2 I've been tempted by some quality matches, but between poker and this girl, I haven't had the desire to meet another girl.





A little congrats gift for completing the marathon. Balloon, gummies, chocolates, and stuffed animal. I've found the stuffed animal to be a great gift. This girl and past gf's have absolutely loved it and it will always be next to them in their bed reminding them of you.
Not bad. But why be afraid to be monogamous?

Open relationships aren't really relationships, its just a more serious version of FWB.

Don't be afraid to be a little selfish and look for monogamy.

To me, if im not concerned who she's with romantically, its not a serious relationship.

And if she feels the same about me, then whats the point?

But you do what ever feels comfortable to you.

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09-04-2019 , 02:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Fossilkid93
She's gotten me to do things I didn't think were possible. (i.e. I finish inside of her, but am still so turned on I just keep going and finish again)
Whoah whoah whoah whoah WHOAH...

Wat

Is this something to do with Kegels?
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09-04-2019 , 03:19 AM
That's more related to the studying I've done on tantra and the exercises I've practiced.

Normally when men get close, we're extremely tense (leg, arse, stomach muscles all contracting) and breathing very rapidly. That means that not only is the energy/sensation mostly trapped in the pelvic region, but also we're also quite knackered when we're done.

Through practice I've learned to keep myself more and more relaxed during this phase. So it's much more a full body experience, but also, sometimes when I finish, I don't have that immediate refractory letdown period and at times can just keep going. I don't know what the physiological explanation is, but this never happened for me until I started practicing the stuff I'd read in a few tantra manuals and books like The Multi-Orgasmic Man. A couple other nice benefits are that I can go as long as I like and sometimes I prefer not even finishing (in the traditional sense).
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09-04-2019 , 03:30 AM
But can you last longer than Sting?
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09-04-2019 , 03:33 AM
Singer Sting, yes. Peak WCW Sting, no.
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09-04-2019 , 04:05 AM
And Brian Hastings too I presume.

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Originally Posted by Fossilkid93
I don't have that immediate refractory letdown period
Ahh, I believe the French call this 'le petit mort'. Interesting info. I'm going to have to cool my beans a little before I blow my load next time.
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09-04-2019 , 05:36 AM
In Vegas right now, its amazing how many hoors are on the prowl. Not that I'm complaining.
The next one thats asian with crooked eyes is in trouble!

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09-04-2019 , 11:58 AM
Just an update, messed up a sure thing, because i was too f***ed up to realize where i was.
She got a 500 ticket for nuttin.

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09-04-2019 , 12:35 PM
Interesting stuff. Whatever works for you. At that price I'd rather just **** like, 10-15 times a month and never talk to them
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09-04-2019 , 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by coordi
Interesting stuff. Whatever works for you. At that price I'd rather just **** like, 10-15 times a month and never talk to them
My working hypothesis is that the hookers aren't as hot as the girls shown above, but I'll ask shuffle to confirm.
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09-04-2019 , 03:25 PM
Maybe I'll do some research after work. I can't imagine where I live being very lush with life for this type of thing
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09-04-2019 , 03:28 PM
Wonder how it works in a place where supply outstrips demand? Shuffle is paying through the nose in LA, but I wonder if you can find some value in a place like Tuscaloosa.
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09-04-2019 , 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by JoeC2012
Wonder how it works in a place where supply outstrips demand? Shuffle is paying through the nose in LA, but I wonder if you can find some value in a place like Tuscaloosa.
An SEC college town would probably be insane value, you're right. Unlimited college-aged hotties who just want to make a quick buck on the side every now and then, but not a lot of old dudes with money. Only downside is you have to live in the South.
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09-04-2019 , 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Fossilkid93
That's more related to the studying I've done on tantra and the exercises I've practiced.

Normally when men get close, we're extremely tense (leg, arse, stomach muscles all contracting) and breathing very rapidly. That means that not only is the energy/sensation mostly trapped in the pelvic region, but also we're also quite knackered when we're done.

Through practice I've learned to keep myself more and more relaxed during this phase. So it's much more a full body experience, but also, sometimes when I finish, I don't have that immediate refractory letdown period and at times can just keep going. I don't know what the physiological explanation is, but this never happened for me until I started practicing the stuff I'd read in a few tantra manuals and books like The Multi-Orgasmic Man. A couple other nice benefits are that I can go as long as I like and sometimes I prefer not even finishing (in the traditional sense).


The woman who made me keep going and finish again, I married. YMMV
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09-04-2019 , 07:36 PM
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The woman who made me keep going and finish again, I married. YMMV
Yah, I really like this one. Not only the best in bed I've been with, but probably the best personality as well and a great match in terms of interests and values. She's not the most attractive girl I've been with recently, but I still find her very attractive. I think I'd probably have to go on 100-200 more dates to find just 1 like her.
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09-04-2019 , 10:10 PM
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So two years later, I'm 36 and my girlfriend and I broke up. After some months, there was a chance we could get back together and settle down, but she had just started dating another guy she graduated school with and I decided not to interfere, lest she wind up with me and miss out on her chance to be happy in life.

There was also a Chinese girl I met playing poker who was a grad student, 23, and we dated briefly, but she turned out to be a huge flake.

So finally, I indulged in this fantasy of mine. As I looked around on the site, I came across different types of girls and women: broke college girls; escorts, both the cheap hooker kind, and high-class prostitutes who know what they are doing and, depending on their age, might have been doing this for a long time; females who are clueless and don't have the looks and/or youth to be on a sugar baby site; divorced women or single mothers with kids who are desperate for help; younger girls who have had disappointing dating experiences and want to meet a confident and attractive and successful man; women who are somewhat older and if they can become a trophy wife might consider settling down.

All kinds of different people on there, so besides considering your age, the age of the woman you might desire, and how much you're willing to spend, you'll also have to think about what type of arrangement you might want. No strings attached? A high class prostitute who has plenty of experience? Or a girl who's just curious and thinking about it for the first time?

I'm a monogamous kind of guy, so I'm not interested in prostitutes or pay-per-meet. I've always been up front with everyone on there about what I'm looking for: a traditional arrangement. I give her a monthly allowance and sometimes buy gifts or whatever else ... in exchange we date each other once or twice a week. If we talk every day fine, if not that's fine too, I don't really care as long as we have good communication and some kind of ongoing relationship. I don't want it to feel like it's just a transaction, and I always hear the same thing from the girls I'm interested in: they don't want anything transactional either. It's more about the experience with a man and being taken care of and getting what they want-- the hookers get filtered out.







So I had an arrangement with this girl for a few months last year, and then after that my dating life really went to hell. She had just turned 21, and I thought she was beautiful and pretty hot. I mean, I liked her what can I say. But I've also dated sweet kinda innocent ladies my whole life, and you know, given the nature of this kind of relationship, the whole thing started out more calculating and straightforward. You're just going to meet a different type of woman on seeking arrangement than you will meet on another dating site or often in real life. It took awhile for me to break the ice with her and get her to warm up, but it started to happen at the end, but by then I was already uncomfortable and insecure about everything. Eventually I made the decision to end it with her and seek out a normal, healthy relationship with an adult woman who might want to settle down and build a life together.

But it didn't take long for me to regret my decision...we're incommunicado now, but if I could get back with her I would. I still regret it to this day.

Anyway, over the course of the last year, my dating life turned to absolute garbage. I'm 36-37 now and absolutely convinced that anything over 35 is a death sentence for online dating. Everything is based on swipes so you can't just cold open people anymore, you have to match first. What are the default ages, 18-35? I would set mine at 27-37 or 24-37 and almost every single match they gave me was close to my age. Not good. I mean, my swipe left rate had to be extremely close to 100%. I started adjusting the upper bound of my preferred range down, so the algos would give me a more diverse set of profiles. Finally I settled on 24-32. It seems like all of the profiles I get excited about are women in their mid-20s, and it's never a match. I dumped $200 on CmB trying to send likes to non-matches, before I finally figured out it's a waste of time.

Fast forward to Vegas this summer because I went crazy and totally lost my mind. Sold almost everything I owned and just hit the road with my car and suitcase and couple of boxes. Couldn't stay in the middle of nowhere anymore. Had to just go and feel like I'm going somewhere in life.

When I arrived in LV, I signed up for the normal dating sites: once again no matches. Frustrated, I gave up and returned to seeking arrangement. It's not all college girls on there, by the way. This 31 year old Brazilian woman actually opened me and asked me out on a date.









Her pictures and profile were absolutely amazing, so obviously I was interested. We moved our conversations offline and proceeded from there, but I never followed through. Why? Because if we had met on a normal dating site, I would have gone all out and locked her down. But this isn't a normal dating site ... it's seeking arrangement. Her age preferences were set at 40-60 and eventually I learned that she had previous arrangements including with a man in his 50s. What kind of man is she dating in his 50s? Probably a very wealthy one.

I told her listen, I'm looking for a more normal relationship with women closer to my age, not the sugar baby thing. I'm really just on seeking arrangement to drop $2,000-$3,000 per month spoiling a college girl. If it turns into something serious, great, more than likely if not, just date for a few months or a year until I meet someone else. That's within my lifestyle budget, probably not what she's looking for if she's trying to date up since she's already a grown woman with a career and experience dating CEOs.

She didn't care! Maybe it was her getting on the other side of 30 and thinking about getting out of that life, I don't know ... but she was interested in me anyway, even after I told her what was on my mind. I decided to pass because if anything happened between us, I know I would have been insecure. Plus, I realized after this summer that I hate Las Vegas, and didn't want to stay there. I still have her number, but I'm in L.A. now and doubt I will ever text her again.

I'll finish this up with one more post...
Small world. I was talking to this same exact woman on SA. I was in Vegas last month and decided to look her up. She sent me some really hot pics. However when I wanted to get together she told me she wanted $800 per meet up.

I will post a trip report on SA here some day too. Have had some great experience and some wired stuff too. Not all women on there even want money. Some just want to be with a successful guy that will treat them with respect. In fact the one of the best BJ I ever had was from a SA woman that didnt ask for anything.
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09-05-2019 , 04:04 AM
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Originally Posted by decoop99
Small world. I was talking to this same exact woman on SA. I was in Vegas last month and decided to look her up. She sent me some really hot pics. However when I wanted to get together she told me she wanted $800 per meet up.

I will post a trip report on SA here some day too. Have had some great experience and some wired stuff too. Not all women on there even want money. Some just want to be with a successful guy that will treat them with respect. In fact the one of the best BJ I ever had was from a SA woman that didnt ask for anything.
So you're saying that she was a true "giver'?

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Originally Posted by Fossilkid93
Singer Sting, yes. Peak WCW Sting, no.


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Originally Posted by Eeyorefora
In Vegas right now, its amazing how many hoors are on the prowl. Not that I'm complaining.
The next one thats asian with crooked eyes is in trouble!

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09-05-2019 , 08:12 PM
So you don’t date normally then?
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09-06-2019 , 12:58 AM
$1k/mo in Bloomington is actually way more than I was expecting. Sounds like you're getting a 50-70% discount vs LA, I honestly thought it might be closer to 90-95%. $1k/mo is an unfathomable amount of money in college.
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09-06-2019 , 05:25 AM
Don’t be afraid to approach a woman you find interesting or attractive on the street or wherever you may happen to be, especially if you’re not into the bar scene. There are women literally everywhere, many of whom would be caught off guard by a good approach in the best of ways. Also consider digging deep into the 3rd world. A huge positive there is they don’t possess the outlandish entitlement and insanely overvalued self worth that white American women seem to have.
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09-06-2019 , 10:12 AM
Completely agree with malucci on all points. Cold approach irl is the best way to bat out of your league. If you are living a listless nomadic life, then exploring the world would be a great step to take. Especially since it seems like you are fairly well off. Being willing to spend a little outside the US will get you laid in 90% of the world without American drama
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09-06-2019 , 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Shuffle
Otherwise I don't have anything to do yet in L.A.
Need a Shuffle & Gaddy Night on the Prowl TR, ASAP!

Given your mutually shared interests, it seems like a K-Town Hostess Club might be the way to go. It ends with Shuffle paying a girl $2k to bang once a week

Spoiler:
on Gaddy's red couch
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09-06-2019 , 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Malucci
Don’t be afraid to approach a woman you find interesting or attractive on the street or wherever you may happen to be, especially if you’re not into the bar scene. There are women literally everywhere, many of whom would be caught off guard by a good approach in the best of ways. Also consider digging deep into the 3rd world. A huge positive there is they don’t possess the outlandish entitlement and insanely overvalued self worth that white American women seem to have.
Eh, I suppose this is one way to look at it. I think more likely, the white American women simply have higher status than 3rd world women and thus can afford to be pickier in their choice of partners.
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09-06-2019 , 10:51 PM
will read shuffles post next week but what is the short clifnotes as in what was it about?

im thrown off because he said hes not getting any more dates which I thought thast what teh write up was about, he wa getting a lot of dates?

what happened?
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