I'm an academic who lives in a **** hole rural area in the deep south. Every year we have some new young (30ish) female faculty member start who is very attractive. They stand out like a sore thumb when you see them shopping at the local grocery store (Walmart...).

I stopped going down the professor route largely because of the "you have to live where you get offered" thing. I'm sure it happens all the time and isn't a massive outlier scenario. My one friend was a great student and ended up on the tenure track. He lives in Murray, KY. No thanks.

Fossil, she's cute as hell.

Oh! Yup. We're in accord.

Hmm, disagree somewhat on the relationship material comment. Over the years I've been inclined to believe 7-level girls can get pretty much anyone they want for a romantic partner. This is because 10 level guys can either try and navigate the picky and crazy 10 and 9-level girls or they can avoid the hassle and drop down to the still pretty but lower maintenance 8 and 7 level girls, and due to the sheer volume of messages those girls will get, they can afford to be choosy.

I'm sure there's plenty of shorter term hooking up going on at the top tier of attractiveness though.

The biggest difference is that a guy that's a "10" will still entertain the possibility of a woman that's a 6-7 in looks (just to bang) and even a 5 or below socially (unemployed/underemployed, single mothers, divorcees). You would be hard pressed to find a woman that is an 8+ looks wise and an 8+ social wise (has career with a good salary, is single, lives alone in apartment or has a house) that would even give a guy a look who isn't at least on par with her lifestyle.

Even in a city like Vegas, you'll hear every stripper talk about how she "can't date a broke dude", when the bane of their existence is getting naked and doing "favors" for money. In an economy as bad as Vegas, that's literally their only shot at a gig making $2500-4000/week.

It's mainly the reason why professional single women have such a hard time (so they say), finding a partner. I'm speaking in general terms of course, but they won't compromise for a man they feel is socially or gainfully beneath them. But any man that's well off would have no problem accepting a waitress or a cashier if she had other qualities that he is interested in.

+1 trillion Online Dating Points!

Aww, stripping is their only shot at making $200k a year? None of us probably even have that shot.

Most of them spend it all so I'm sure that the majority of us are doing better, fiscally.

I mean you're of course speaking in general terms, but the entirety of what you're saying is generally total bull****.

I'm ok with that. I would love to hear your perspective on this theory, assuming it's very different.

I’m an old, whose experiences predate online dating, but I’ve seen hundreds upon hundreds of 9s and 10s marry dudes who weren’t close to them in physical attractiveness. For many women physical attractiveness is not the primary quality they seek. I agree that they can generally have their pick of whoever they want because 90% of guys do want the 9s and 10s, but some want money, charm or confidence or or or. I’m currently on a sailboat with a guy who is pushing 70 and dating a 23 year old who is somewhere in the 9 neighborhood. There is no world in which he is in the top 50% of physical attraction for anyone. But owning a 2 million boat and willing to spend freely is clearly what she values most. I have a musician friend who went through a small army of model-types before he settled down. He’s ok looking, but not too 20%. He is funny and charming and a guitar player.

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Nosoup, you missed the point I made where I said women will sacrifice looks for status. Whereas tiger Woods was having affairs with waitresses that work at a diner, while he was married to a 10

These girls are rarely single in my experience, though they are often in long distance relationships.

Over almost a decade of online dating, I can count on one hand the total number of dates I went on with a fellow professor. Grad students are a much better target (though obviously not in your own department).

Not always, how many 8+'s have you seen with absolute tools that look like Gollum, broke, and treat her like **** most of the time.

I used to say its due to being young and stupid, but I'm leaning more to cray cray.

See it enough that its not unusual anymore, just makes me wonder what kind of trainwrek she is.

The Gollum sells drugs

Fossil, send that 38-year-old out to LA and I'll bang her. Though, the last time I was with a woman that old was eight years ago.

Someone should have mentioned that parenthetical to all my dad's colleagues who are on their second wives. Only about half of them married grad students they were supervising, though.

I agree with all of this. I am old (52) and not great looking and only 5 7'. However now that I am financially secure, there is no shortage of opportunities with women way out of what i thought was my league. Including a FWB relationship with a super hot 28 year old. I had no idea driving a Lexus was such a turn on for many women.

Honestly the hardest part now is believing in myself that they would want to be with me, regardless of the reason. Almost screwed up the 28 yo situation with self doubt.

Women are after whatever they’re after...there should be no shame in going after what you want also.

Agree, generally however, online changes the game a bit. Online allows 10s and 9s to troll through hundreds of photos of people within a 25 mile range to find other 9s or 10s. Before that, what they saw was what they get.

If you're talking about short-term relationships, sure. Also, if you're talking about a man who is rich but not very bright then I can see that too.

However, nearly all professional guys I know would not date someone who was not on a similar professional level to them.

Most professional guys capable of getting a 9 or 10 waitress are capable of getting a 9 or 10 lawyer, professor or teacher.

I also think this statement is only true for women who have a low status.

Maybe it’s an American thing. In England sure I can imagine women of low education with a ****ty job going for the money, but I think that you’re unlikely to find too many educated women going for anyone noticeably below their level even regardless of the man’s wealth and status. just think it’s way more likely for a top level guy to be dating a cute but not stunning girl than a model type girl hanging around with a more plain type of guy. Just going by what I’ve seen on the train and the street over the years.

It’s down to simple supply and demand. The top women are just in higher demand and they’re just going to swipe the hottest guys, and even if they are in the market for gold, are they really going to be spending time scrutinising each profile? I guess some will, but that’s the Seeking Arrangements market and it’s pretty niche.

why dont you guys attract crazies? how do you manage to avoid them?? after 1 meetup, got a text the next day saying her mom wants to see a pic of me. wtf