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02-20-2010 , 03:21 AM

#101

Charlie.Dont.Surf

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http://www.nytimes.com/1998/04/27/bu...ogrammers.html

http://taxfoundation.org/blog/show/25870.html

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02-20-2010 , 05:22 AM

#102

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100 posters, and nobody has yet mentioned that the SOB tried to burn his wife and daughter to death, and burned down his house, leaving his wife and kid homeless and probably penniless. Some ****ing hero.

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02-20-2010 , 06:32 AM

#103

vixticator

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Originally Posted by eobmtns

Yeah well might as well kill your family if you are going to make a political statement!

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02-20-2010 , 09:52 AM

#104

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Originally Posted by eobmtns

i don't support what he did, but i can understand why he did it. just because someone tried to burn down their own house doesn't mean they're 'crazy' or 'not worth listening to'.

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02-20-2010 , 11:17 AM

#105

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Originally Posted by eobmtns

nobody has yet mentioned that the SOB tried to burn his wife and daughter to death, and burned down his house,

I haven't been following this closely- What i'd read early on was that they were not at home when he set it on fire.

Was I wrong?

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02-20-2010 , 11:19 AM

#106

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Originally Posted by ASPoker8

Aside from killing people, this guy and the Unabomber are way more correct about their views on our government than the idiots bashing them in this thread.

I have no respect for people calling this guy crazy for his beliefs/understanding of the incompetence/corruption of our government and the stupidity of our people.

And yet, you haven't moved to Canada so far.....

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02-20-2010 , 11:23 AM

#107

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Wait wait wait.... His first issue with the IRS in the 80s...

So he created a company that paid their taxes the same way the catholic church did

He saved lots of money by filing that way

And he was upset when he had to pay it back...?

Did I misunderstand something here?

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02-20-2010 , 11:54 AM

#108

Mr.WeakTight

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Originally Posted by Lottery Larry

I haven't been following this closely- What i'd read early on was that they were not at home when he set it on fire.

Was I wrong?

they had moved out to get away from him b/c he was so angry lately. so they were not home.

But, I don't think their homeowner's insurance will cover their loss b/c it was arson. so all they get is whatever life insurance he had, if he had any, and if it was bought long ago enough that it wasn't excluded through his suicide.

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02-20-2010 , 02:52 PM

#109

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Originally Posted by Belok

To be fair the tax breaks that religious groups get is criminal and there is no logical reason it exists this way.

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Originally Posted by Triumph36

i don't support what he did, but i can understand why he did it. just because someone tried to burn down their own house doesn't mean they're 'crazy' or 'not worth listening to'.

He Keyser Sozed the IRS. He showed those men of will what will truly is.

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02-20-2010 , 03:45 PM

#110

jxi

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any way we could turn worshipping the poker gods into a religion to get some tax breaks?

i dont think killing people is usually correct, but i completely understand Mr. Joe Stack's motivations

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02-20-2010 , 04:02 PM

#111

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Originally Posted by [Phill]

To be fair the tax breaks that religious groups get is criminal and there is no logical reason it exists this way.

I understand his point... But to apply those criminal tax breaks to his own non-religious business is an odd/risky way to make that point. Especially when "making the point" results in him saving thousands of tax dollars.

Everybody wants to hold on to their own money, but its almost comical that he'd think something like that would ever work in the first place.

Kinda like if you were speeding at 120mph down the shoulder of a highway because cops/ambulances get to, so you should to. Are you really gonna be surprised when you get pulled over?

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02-20-2010 , 04:06 PM

#112

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Originally Posted by jxi

any way we could turn worshipping the poker gods into a religion to get some tax breaks?

Just as legit as any other religion imo. And the poker gods seem to answer prayers at about the same rate as all the other gods. It would also be nice to get anti-gambling legislation recognized for the blatant religious persecution it really is.

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02-20-2010 , 04:29 PM

#113

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i can't believe he got all this done by 10am.

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02-20-2010 , 04:43 PM

#114

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I think the only problem with his line was not calling the IRS building ahead of time to warn them. Mostly likely the building woulda been evacuated, story would have been more interesting, and he would increased legitimacy of "bomb" threats!

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02-20-2010 , 09:40 PM

#115

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Originally Posted by EvilSteve

Last I checked the poker gods have answered quite a lot of prayers and all the other gods have never answered any prayers.

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02-20-2010 , 09:48 PM

#116

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Originally Posted by eobmtns

They weren't home, plus his daughter lives in Finland. His wife has a daughter, who you might be referring to.

No one is saying he's a hero. He's a moron for thinking the government cared one bit about him and was acting in his interests, or had any chance to change. I can see if you thought the government was actually supposed to act in the interests of its citizens how that might drive you to the point where you just want to crash a plane into one of its buildings, though. He's no hero, just a sucker who thought he could somehow influence a corrupt and unjust system.

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02-20-2010 , 10:10 PM

#117

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wow

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02-20-2010 , 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by smittymatt

How much warning can he give without risking being stopped? 15-20 min before impact is my guess at the sweet spot. Enough time to get people out, but not enough to get shot down. Assuming he wants that.

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02-20-2010 , 10:25 PM

#119

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Originally Posted by AlbertoKnox

If he wanted to have no human impact he would have just crashed it at night. It's right next to a highway, he couldn't miss it.

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02-20-2010 , 10:28 PM

#120

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Originally Posted by Lottery Larry

And yet, you haven't moved to Canada so far.....

Always the best response, thanks for not disappointing.

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02-21-2010 , 12:13 AM

#121

Ultim8Degen

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Originally Posted by TomCollins

Alex Jones is already claiming this. Or at least that he's been predicting the government would stage an attack against the IRS to smear his people.

Of course, we all know that Alex Jones is really a government plant that is designed to make people look crazy.

+1. Easy game by the government. Plant a looney to make outrageous claims. thereby making other laws less threatening.

the sad part is, we are all aware that are freedoms are being slowly taken away, what are any us of doing to stop it?

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02-21-2010 , 12:23 AM

#122

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Originally Posted by Ultim8Degen

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02-21-2010 , 12:42 AM

#123

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eff that.

it is up to all of us to talk sense into the people whare are part of the process...

cops
lawyers
judges
military
educators
media people
whomever.