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02-18-2010 , 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by ATAT
Iran must pay for this
I lol'd
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02-18-2010 , 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by phiphika1453
I think you missed his point. Which he addressed in his paper to begin with; Americans as a whole are too dumb and have too little power to change the way our government operates. Sure he said he got ****ed over a lot, but his main point was that he was frustrated at the lack of ability to address problems in our country under the system we operate.

He was steadfast in his beliefs and did the same thing millions of other Americans have done who believe their government was infringing on their rights; killing as many as those who he believes were to blame.

This is startling because people believe they can truly change America's future in a profound way without drastic measures when in actuallity it takes A LOT of power and money to truly have an impact.

So, he resorted to what has worked in this country's past, violence.

I understand the guy's frustrations, but I wouldn't resort to this. America has its problems, ignorance being the biggest, but it is still a great place to live.
If you don't have the sack to go out burning Bhuddist style keep that weak **** at home. Other terrorists around the world are laughing at our candyass American terrorists now!
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02-19-2010 , 12:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Twos Full
Cliffs of manifesto?
link to actual text: http://www.statesman.com/blogs/conte...by_man_li.html

()= Mr.WeakTight's commentary
""=exact quote

Why? it's complicated.

I started writing this months ago. it was supposed to be therapy for the storm raging in my head.

what the founding fathers stood for that our military dies for, especially no taxation without representation, is b.s. (as in these freedoms don't exist).

politicians don't consider me or people like me when they vote.

government bails out GM and yet we have a joke for health care system that murders 10s of thousands of people a year.

justice system requires fully complying with laws not even the experts understand.

i started going to tax protester nut meetings. i had 16 years of school so i thought I could understand plain English.

I lost my stupid ass tax protester case because there's two interpretations of every law - one for rich, one for poor- That little lesson in patriotism cost me $40,000+, 10 years of my life, and set my retirement plans back to 0.


the tax reform act of 1986 screwed me, especially sec. 1706(d) which is an exception for engineers and computer programmers that benefited big accounting firms and screwed little guys like me.

IRS said they would not use 1706(d) to harass people like me, but they lied

.com bust.

moved from CA to Austin. Couldn't find work and what i can find pays 1/3 and I don't like Austin.

I didn't file a return for one year b/c I didn't have any income (but he did cash his IRA which was income.)

tried to go to court but I was late.

I hired an accountant who left out $12k of income and didn't represent my interests in audit.

by not adding my body to those of people who have died for freedom, I would only assure that nothing would change.

"I saw it written once that the definition of insanity is repeating the same process over and over and expecting the outcome to suddenly be different. I am finally ready to stop this insanity. Well, Mr. Big Brother IRS man, let’s try something different; take my pound of flesh and sleep well. . .

The capitalist creed: From each according to his gullibility, to each according to his greed.

Joe Stack (1956-2010)"
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02-19-2010 , 12:20 AM
where's the fail.jpg for this?
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02-19-2010 , 12:41 AM
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Originally Posted by phiphika1453
He was steadfast in his beliefs and did the same thing millions of other Americans have done who believe their government was infringing on their rights; killing as many as those who he believes were to blame.
WTF are you talking about?


Who are these "millions" of Americans who've gone down killing as many of those to blame as possible?



This guy tried to kill a bunch of clerks in an office. I'm sure that will finally bring down the powers that be.
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02-19-2010 , 12:54 AM
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Originally Posted by BigPoppa
WTF are you talking about?


Who are these "millions" of Americans who've gone down killing as many of those to blame as possible?



This guy tried to kill a bunch of clerks in an office. I'm sure that will finally bring down the powers that be.
He meant the native Americans fighting against the genocide of their people by the murderous white man. When he said "their" he meant white. Just like the white government the loon from the OP attacked.

This is why the white man looked at what he did to the natives so wrote the second amendment giving Americans the right to bear arms. In this case he used a plane as a rather crude fist at the end of the arms to punch a hole in a building.
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02-19-2010 , 01:15 AM
We have met the enemy, and it is us.
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02-19-2010 , 01:42 AM
Does this mean we get to invade Texas now?
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02-19-2010 , 02:25 AM
I can't decide if the guy was crazy or not.

He would be crazy to fly into the building and sane if he didn't, but if he was sane he had to fly into the building. If he flew into the building he was crazy and didn't have to; but if he didn't want to he was sane and had to.
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02-19-2010 , 03:07 AM
standard
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02-19-2010 , 04:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Fleebrog
I can't decide if the guy was crazy or not.

He would be crazy to fly into the building and sane if he didn't, but if he was sane he had to fly into the building. If he flew into the building he was crazy and didn't have to; but if he didn't want to he was sane and had to.
catch-22 imo
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02-19-2010 , 04:32 AM
I think I mailed my tax return to this building this morning. I hope they can still process it.
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02-19-2010 , 04:41 AM
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Originally Posted by d10
I think I mailed my tax return to this building this morning. I hope they can still process it.
i suspect there may be a small delay in processing.
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02-19-2010 , 04:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Fleebrog
I can't decide if the guy was crazy or not.

He would be crazy to fly into the building and sane if he didn't, but if he was sane he had to fly into the building. If he flew into the building he was crazy and didn't have to; but if he didn't want to he was sane and had to.
being crazy and having to fly into the building aren't mutually exclusive, i think. so you probably need to rephrase that to make it clear.
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02-19-2010 , 08:29 AM
please please PLEASE let it have been Nielso
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02-19-2010 , 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by XxGodJrxX
please please PLEASE let it have been Nielso
haha, I was thinking about joking which politard it was
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02-19-2010 , 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by XxGodJrxX
please please PLEASE let it have been Nielso
+1
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02-19-2010 , 09:11 AM
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02-19-2010 , 11:59 AM
Hey let's wait for all the facts to come in before we call this guy crazy.
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02-19-2010 , 12:23 PM
"it was supposed to be therapy for the storm raging in my head."

I can kind of relate to this feeling. The thing is though, if you stay inside your head with that for too long, you start to believe things that arent really accurate, and things that are normally insignificant or just a nuisance can send you off obsessing about it for days. It's really not an enjoyable experience.

I doubt that the irs is the sole reason he went ape****. Probably had something to do with family/social structure (or lack thereof), drug abuse, insomnia, depression. It's sad that events that could have avoided with just a few minor lifestyle changes can turn out so drastic.
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02-19-2010 , 03:27 PM
Before you guys write him off as a lunatic, please read his manifesto with an open mind. I actually agree with most of what he says. The unabomber has a very good manifesto too. Blowing something up doesn't make you crazy. READ what he says and explain to me why he is wrong.
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02-19-2010 , 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by kurosh
Before you guys write him off as a lunatic, please read his manifesto with an open mind. I actually agree with most of what he says. The unabomber has a very good manifesto too. Blowing something up doesn't make you crazy. READ what he says and explain to me why he is wrong.
Dealing with the IRS certainly can drive a lot of people crazy.

Here is where he is wrong, though-

He claims that nothing will change without violence. However, he's forgetting that nothing will change with violence, other than the system crushing the revolt. Nothing will be accomplished by his act, other than making it a lot harder on other people who have grievances with the IRS.

He seems to have some legitimate gripes, but he also thinks he is a special snowflake, and feels ripped off because he thinks he should have been making more money. His collusion claims are completely wrong. His own personal failures (like his marriage, and his business), made the problems caused by others to take a bigger toll than they normally would. Rather than blaming himself for some of his problems, it was a lot easier to blame everyone else for them.
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02-19-2010 , 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by kurosh
Before you guys write him off as a lunatic, please read his manifesto with an open mind. I actually agree with most of what he says. The unabomber has a very good manifesto too. Blowing something up doesn't make you crazy. READ what he says and explain to me why he is wrong.
I'll bite.

Because him writing the manifesto and crashing his plane into the IRS building is certainly not gonna stop the IRS from taking people's money.

The unabomber said these people are doing bad things. So he wrote a manifesto and killed people. Killing people is one of the baddest things that you can do.
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02-19-2010 , 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by kurosh
Blowing something up doesn't make you crazy.
It kind of does.
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02-19-2010 , 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by dlk9s
It kind of does.
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"I saw it written once that the definition of insanity is repeating the same process over and over and expecting the outcome to suddenly be different," the online message says. "I am finally ready to stop this insanity."
Like I pointed out earlier in the thread, he only crashed the plane once. Diagnosis: Sane.
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