damn, I work in a former IRS building - I hope all the tax terrorists have up to date records.

Well sounds like his "plan" was pretty much an epic fail.

he is a true patriot

Blowing up an air mattress on a camping trip and flying a plane into a building are two separate things IMHO.

now my tax dollars are going to be used to fix that irs building... thanks bro.

Another false flag attack, cover story in place, evidence (his house) destroyed... but you all probably still believe 9/11 was planned and carried out by arab muslims... so I won't waste my time or yours any further.

Did you guys even read his manifesto? The IRS is a minor portion of it.

I was just making a joke...Danny Ocean got it.

No, please go on. I am interested in your ideas and wish to subscribe to your newsletter.

please bump the 9/11 truth thread, it needs another tinfoil hatted fellow talking about jackbooted thugs and the like

A+++++ A-****ing-mazing hahahahahah.

PS Nice avatar [Phil]

sorry. deliberately crashing your plane into a building automatically confers lunatic status -- regardless of whether you make a good point in your suicide note.

His manifesto is meh. His point, that it is easier for big business and banks to get justice than it is for the "little guy", has some truth to it, but thats kind of true for every government in history -- the rich and powerful always get better access to justice than the average man.

The average working man in the US still has it better than 99% of his counterparts in other parts of the world or at other times in history.

#1 tax nuts' arguments have been roundly and repeatedly rejected by courts to the point that they are deemed frivolous in court

#2 the freedoms he thinks do not exist do actually exist to a greater extent in our country than many others. he was represented, even though he felt like his representatives didn't listen to him.

#3 knowing how to read plain English is not the same as being able to read legalese. 16 years school does not equal 19 years school (forgetting 3 years law school).

#4 while many people agree that he's right about the tax code screwing the little guy with 1706(d) in particular, this wasn't an effective way to get it changed; or if it does get changed, he won't be around to benefit. in fact, I think they're less likely to change it now for fear of encouraging more similar behavior. It's not like they're going to introduce the Joe Stack memorial Tax Reform Act of 2010 and repeal 1706(d).

#5 income is any benefit derived, including cashed-in IRA

#6 he has some responsibility for not catching his accountant's mistake

#7 the crash was an act of violence that randomly killed some low-level IRS flunkies that proly had nothing to do with his case.

#1 and 2 are utterly irrelevant. Tons of unjust things get held up in court. Justice is not what is defined by a bunch of old white guys. There have been tons of laws that were complete crap and were upheld for a long time, but it didn't make them right.

#3 just shows how screwed up the system is. He sees all the connected people benefit, and sees how they spend all this effort to go after him and screw him over.

#4 I don't think he cared about changing things after he was dead. He already put as much effort as he could to stop it.

#6 - lol @ that. What's the point of hiring an expert if you have to check their work?

#7 - this is true. If he would have shot up the guy who introduced that section of the IRS code, I'd have a lot more respect for him. Still crazy and all, but at least he's going after the person who screwed him.

I don't justify what he did, but I can see what led him to it.

You can see how the tax code change passed 24 years ago led to flying a plane into a bldg? That's not logical reasoning, that's a brain seizure.

i'll do the honorable thing and not post my opinions in OOT.

You're welcome, OOT.

No, I can see how dealing with the IRS and dealing with trying to get a law he felt was terribly unfair changed, along with watching this money go to the privileged elite drive someone insane.

Can we call him a terrorist?

Because I want to.

Darwin Awards at work, imo.

Hopefully the moran didn't take anyone else out, with his stupid ass

For the size of what it looked like, the fact that only one other person died is pretty remarkable. A few other injuries, but about as good of an outcome as it can go for this kind of thing. He was not only a failure at life, but a failure at even his death.

Aside from killing people, this guy and the Unabomber are way more correct about their views on our government than the idiots bashing them in this thread.

I have respect for people calling this guy a jackass for killing people.

I have no respect for people calling this guy crazy for his beliefs/understanding of the incompetence/corruption of our government and the stupidity of our people.

I think the lesson we can take from this case is that when it comes to death nothing beats a kid walking into a school cafeteria with a semi and the intent to use it.

I have no idea if he is crazy, but he is clearly stupid if his plan was to really kill loads of IRS people.

Failure to learn from the "mistakes" of others dooms us to repeat them.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2002_Tampa_plane_crash

But... but he had his own aeroplane!

I wonder what the tax costs of owning and running your own plane are.

Yeah, I was wondering why he didn't sell his damn airplane if he was struggling so much financially.