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08-06-2021 , 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by LieutenantBroccoli
What are the Delta symptoms?
An overwhelming urge to get vaccinated.
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08-06-2021 , 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by revots33
Pretty interesting episode of the NY Times "The Daily" podcast today. It's called "Voices of the Unvaccinated" - they interview a bunch of people from across the US who have chosen not the get the vaccine. They range from quite reasonable-sounding to "all vaccines are poison" 100% anti-vaxxers. Quite fascinating to hear these people's thought processes.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/06/p...s-vaccine.html
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Originally Posted by pocket_zeros
I caught this episode as well. The first guy was the most reasonable, although equating his vaccine hesitancy with not wanting to buy an Xbox for fear of a better version coming out later struck me as a severe form of cognitive dissonance avoidance.

The woman who refused to admit COVID killed her grandmother reminded me of the stories of ICU patients refusing to believe COVID is what put them there. Most striking was how the woman conceded COVID weakened her grandmother's body, implying that was partially causative of her death, yet would not admit COVID was the actual cause of her death. I wish the NYT reporter would have asked her a simple follow-up question: "Do you think your grandmother would still be alive if she didn't catch COVID?"

The self-admitted anti-vaxxer at the end of the podcast was the typical non-thinking automaton.
The lady with the dead grandmother stated a few doozies:
-Her and her family changed nothing about their lifestyle including never wearing masks in 2020.
-When asked if getting the vaccine to protect others because she is obviously super fit she says she stays away from others (refuting the first point)
-The 2nd time she caught COVID was at a 'small' get together for a graduation in May 2021. Refuting the point above about staying away from others.
-At the get together, 8 people caught COVID. She said she had it by far the worse despite her grandmother passing away from it.
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08-06-2021 , 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by de captain
An overwhelming urge to get vaccinated.
Legit LOL

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Originally Posted by that_pope
-At the get together, 8 people caught COVID. She said she had it by far the worse despite her grandmother passing away from it of the people that didn't die.
FYP
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08-06-2021 , 06:38 PM
‘Nothing to be afraid of’: Anti-vaxxer said he was ‘glad’ to catch COVID – it killed him days later

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A Cambridge-educated man who posted a video to social media downplaying the threat of COVID-19 has died from the virus, the Evening Standard reports.

Solicitor Leslie Lawrenson, 58, died in home in Bournemouth, Dorset, just over a week after he shared a video claiming that COVID is northing to be afraid of. Lawrenson refused to be vaccinated because he felt he didn't need it. He had no underlying health problems.

In June, he posted two videos where he said his COVID symptoms were no worse than a cold. He also said that getting sick is just a part of life and that he was actually glad to have contracted COVID-19. But his parter Amanda Mitchell says, "I feel incredibly foolish. Les died unnecessarily."

"Les made a terrible mistake and he's paid the ultimate price for that," she said. "It was a daily thing that he said to us: 'You don't need to have it, you'll be fine, just be careful.'"

"Les was highly educated... so if he told me something, I tended to believe it," she added.
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08-06-2021 , 06:41 PM
Some will die in hot pursuit in fiery auto crashes
Some will die in hot pursuit while sifting through my ashes
Some will fall in love with life and drink it from a fountain
That is pouring like an avalanche coming down the mountain


Sup dudes?
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08-06-2021 , 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Butthole Surfer
Some will die in hot pursuit in fiery auto crashes
Some will die in hot pursuit while sifting through my ashes
Some will fall in love with life and drink it from a fountain
That is pouring like an avalanche coming down the mountain


Sup dudes?


Spoiler:

Yes I'm also old
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08-06-2021 , 07:13 PM
Thank you very much for that. I've now relived a part of my childhood I haven't listened to in 10+ years.

Youtube rabbit hole looks like:
Butthole Surfers: Pepper
Presidents of the USA: Lump
Cake: The Distance
Blues Traveler: Run Around

Fun Friday Afternoon!
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08-06-2021 , 07:22 PM
From an Atlantic article from today, re: transmissability of Vax vs unvax, when it comes to Delta. Very helpful imo because there's a lot of confusion right now.

"Some have worried, because of a CDC slideshow reported on by The Washington Post a few weeks ago, that vaccinated adults pose as much of a risk to the unvaccinated, including children, as unvaccinated adults do. But this is not the case, Jha and others say. Vaccinated people are less likely to get infected. If you don’t get infected, you can’t spread COVID-19 to others. Although initially, infected vaccinated and unvaccinated people may be similarly contagious for a short period, vaccinated people clear the virus more more quickly, making them less contagious overall."
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08-06-2021 , 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by that_pope
Thank you very much for that. I've now relived a part of my childhood I haven't listened to in 10+ years.

Youtube rabbit hole looks like:
Butthole Surfers: Pepper
Presidents of the USA: Lump
Cake: The Distance
Blues Traveler: Run Around

Fun Friday Afternoon!


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Originally Posted by Tuma
There is now an Epsilon variant as well as a Lambda. Epsilon spreading through Pakistan has shown up in California -- supposedly evades vaccines.



https://www.nj.com/coronavirus/2021/...dies-show.html
Love to get my "data" on vaccine effectiveness from NewJersey dot com with the source link being "india dot com" where there is no actual citation for it.
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08-07-2021 , 12:53 AM


Rogan is going to kill us all.

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08-07-2021 , 01:00 AM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99


Rogan is going to kill us all.
I haven't heard the show or the scientist he had on but I discussed the risks of vaccine-aggravated selection pressure leading to mutations in a previous post on this thread a few weeks ago. It's a real thing. That doesn't mean we shouldn't use the vaccines but we must recognize that selection-pressure is a significant risk. The same is true for any medicine or treatment we develop to fight pathogens and cancers, including antibiotics.
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08-07-2021 , 01:07 AM
So it's irrelevant to whether or not we should actually take the vaccine. But a chunk of Rogan's audience will throw it against the wall as yet another unconnected data point that to them means all science they don't like can safely be dismissed.
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08-07-2021 , 01:22 AM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99
So it's irrelevant to whether or not we should actually take the vaccine. But a chunk of Rogan's audience will throw it against the wall as yet another unconnected data point that to them means all science they don't like can safely be dismissed.
On an individual basis it is indeed irrelevant - most should still get the vaccine. However it is relevant on a collective basis - the more who are vaccinated, the greater the selection pressure and thus greater the risk of vaccine-escaping mutations. This is why I also posted on this thread that I don't think children should be vaccinated - it creates a significant increased risk to selection pressure without IMO a commensurate benefit. It would be akin to giving all children antibiotics to a bacteria that has an exceeding low risk of harming them.

It should be noted that natural immunity from actual infections also creates selection pressure on the virus that leads to natural-immunity escaping mutations. The difference is that vaccine-aggravated selection pressure has a higher chance of yielding mutations that are specifically vaccine-escaping. Again, the analog here is antibiotics. The irony is that by vaccinating children you increase the chance of harming the at-risk population from vaccine-escaping mutations.
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08-07-2021 , 01:36 AM
Well the good news with delta is that the vaxxed can still get it and spread it (just not as much). IE - there isn't as much vaccine-aggravated selection than if the vaxx was perfect against delta. So it would seem to reason that delta still reigns supreme on the playing field, and doesn't leave much room for a new variant to sneak in. For now.

I know anecdotally of dozens of breakthrough delta infections. It's out there.
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08-07-2021 , 04:55 AM
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Originally Posted by david negus
"poison death shot"

This guy says 2 out of 7 people will die from this poison death shot.
Seems legit and definitely those numbers are already showing. Right?
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08-07-2021 , 06:40 AM
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GOP leaders are championing the right to die from Covid — and everyone is paying for it
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08-07-2021 , 07:33 AM
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For the 700,000 people expected to descend on South Dakota’s Black Hills for the Sturgis Motorcycle Rally, the slogan for this year’s event after a year of pandemic restrictions and lockdowns is: “We’re spreading our wings.”
They’ll be spreading that’s for sure

https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...superspreader/
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08-07-2021 , 08:34 AM
Wonder how many deaths can be linked to their source of that motorcycle rally last year. Someone on MSNBC said the governor of SD basically unleashed a biological weapon by allowing that rally last year, seems like an apt comparison.
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08-07-2021 , 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by revots33
Wonder how many deaths can be linked to their source of that motorcycle rally last year. Someone on MSNBC said the governor of SD basically unleashed a biological weapon by allowing that rally last year, seems like an apt comparison.
Sturgis is one place that might have herd immunity.
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08-07-2021 , 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Nittery
Sturgis is one place that might have herd immunity.
Only if immunity via infection lasts a year and is effective against Delta. I don't think there are strong indications of either.

But, yeah, Sturgis would be as good a bet as any location in USA#1.
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08-07-2021 , 11:11 AM
Have you all accepted covid isn't going anywhere anytime soon
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08-07-2021 , 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by nutella virus
Have you all accepted covid isn't going anywhere anytime soon
Nope. I've accepted that it is going everywhere for quite a while.
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08-07-2021 , 04:21 PM
Nice softball.
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08-07-2021 , 04:36 PM
Fox News Personalities Started to Promote COVID-19 Vaccines. Viewers Have Taken Notice

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The share of Fox News viewers who said they probably or definitely won’t get vaccinated fell to 27% this week, an all-time low in Morning Consult tracking.
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In recent weeks, as the country faces another COVID-19 surge that threatens to stunt the pandemic recovery, some conservative media personalities have gone all in on vaccines.

Sean Hannity, one of the highest-profile Fox News hosts, told his audience he believes “in the science of vaccination.” Steve Doocy, co-host of the right-leaning Fox & Friends morning show, told viewers the shot “will save your life.” And Sarah Huckabee Sanders, who’s running for governor of Arkansas after a stint as a Fox News contributor and White House press secretary under former President Donald Trump, penned an op-ed last week encouraging people to consider getting the “Trump vaccine.”

It’s a marked shift in tone for Fox News, given the channel’s segments have repeatedly questioned the severity of the pandemic and raised doubts about the safety of COVID-19 vaccines. New Morning Consult polling suggests the change may be making an impression.

While overall vaccine skepticism has barely budged in months, reluctance fell to an all-time low this week among adults who watch Fox News: 27 percent of viewers now say they probably or definitely won’t get vaccinated, down from 30 percent the week before and a high of 37 percent in mid-March.
I'm sure Fox viewers who suddenly inexplicably changed their minds would tell you they did their own research. It's all tribalism. Which is why Joe Rogan matters so much among the "Both sides are full of ****, mannnnn" third-way bros.
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