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08-09-2021 , 10:37 AM
Where do these idiots come from.
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08-09-2021 , 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by phoneaccount
Exactly. The lead says the author was shocked at Friday’s numbers so he called the Scripps guy. The whole point is things have changed in the last week.

OFAIK your argument is implicitly ‘no not 100,000 cases a day and 50,000 hospitalized, but 50,000 hospitalized on 300,000 cases’ in which case ahhhhhh weren’t you arguing it’s not as bad as described in the interview. That viewpoint is undercut by your supposed 300,000 daily cases.
Why is it undercut by the 300,000 daily cases?

It means the USA is in much more similar position to UK, with high cases and low hospitalisations relative to cases.

The worst position is a high ratio between cases and hospitalisations.
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08-09-2021 , 10:45 AM
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Six members of a church in Florida, all of whom were unvaccinated, died of Covid-19 in less than two weeks
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08-09-2021 , 11:15 AM
It only took 6 of their members to die. I am really loving people this past year
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08-09-2021 , 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by nutella virus
It only took 6 of their members to die. I am really loving people this past year
Actually that church held a vaccination event back in March that got 800 members vaccinated. They're the good guys in this story.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/08/us/fl...rnd/index.html
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08-09-2021 , 11:33 AM
CNBC: The world is nowhere near the end of the pandemic, says famed epidemiologist Larry Brilliant

"The pandemic is not coming to an end soon — given that only a small proportion of the world’s population has been vaccinated, said Larry Brilliant, a well-known epidemiologist."

"Brilliant, who was part of the WHO team that helped eradicate smallpox, said the delta variant is “maybe the most contagious virus” ever."

"Brilliant said his models on the Covid outbreak in San Francisco and New York predict an “inverted V-shape epidemic curve.” That implies that infections increase very quickly, but would also decline rapidly, he explained.

If the prediction turns out be true, it means that the delta variant spreads so quickly that “it basically runs out of candidates” to infect, explained Brilliant.

There appears to be a similar pattern in the U.K. and India, where the spread of the delta variant has receded from recent highs."
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08-09-2021 , 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by pocket_zeros
Actually that church held a vaccination event back in March that got 800 members vaccinated. They're the good guys in this story.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/08/us/fl...rnd/index.html
Please don't let facts get in the way of my blind rage
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08-09-2021 , 11:59 AM
Dude’s name is literally Larry Brilliant.
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08-09-2021 , 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by golddog
businessdude,

Went for my semi-annual check last week. Mask required in office part, til we got back to the exam area. Don't recall if check-in people at desk were masked. Seats in waiting room were distanced.

Exam pretty normal, tech had mask & face shield (& gloves ofc). Dentist came in for the wrap up, same kind of technique.
I guess the part I'm focusing on is whether the hygienist is vaccinated.

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Originally Posted by nutella virus
Just go to the dentist. Have you not been since covid started? You might want to go now before cases explode again
Aren't they exploding now? My appt is in 10 days.
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08-09-2021 , 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by steamraise
https://www.news4jax.com/news/local/...9-pastor-says/

I saw this news article last night and had to get to the bottom of it. At first glance, it seems statistically impossible that the Delta variant could kill 4 healthy people from the same church all under the age of 35, when the UK's latest data from Friday August 6th still has it at a 0.0% case fatality rate in people under the age of 50. If true, this would strongly suggest Covid has mutated in Jacksonville into something much deadlier for young people.

However, after spending time going through the pastor's social media, the church's Facebook, and Jacksonville area obituaries for the last 14 days, I came to the conclusion that the pastor is lying about these deaths.

I challenge anyone to prove me wrong on this. It's very important we get this right, because if Covid has mutated to become so deadly for young people that it killed 4 young healthy people all from the same church, that changes everything.
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08-09-2021 , 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by APD0290
https://www.news4jax.com/news/local/...9-pastor-says/

I saw this news article last night and had to get to the bottom of it. At first glance, it seems statistically impossible that the Delta variant could kill 4 healthy people from the same church all under the age of 35, when the UK's latest data from Friday August 6th still has it at a 0.0% case fatality rate in people under the age of 50. If true, this would strongly suggest Covid has mutated in Jacksonville into something much deadlier for young people.

However, after spending time going through the pastor's social media, the church's Facebook, and Jacksonville area obituaries for the last 14 days, I came to the conclusion that the pastor is lying about these deaths.

I challenge anyone to prove me wrong on this. It's very important we get this right, because if Covid has mutated to become so deadly for young people that it killed 4 young healthy people all from the same church, that changes everything.
A sample size of 4 young, healthy people dying within 10 days of each other strongly suggests that Covid has mutated in Jacksonville?
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08-09-2021 , 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by phoneaccount
Too Many People Are Dying Right Now

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2021...right-now.html

Intelligencer has had rock solid science based reporting for the whole pandemic. They also ran a lab leak piece months before the Times or Post touched it so they’ve been ahead of the story at some points. This is an interview with Eric Topol a professor of molecular medicine at Scripps.

The interview is based on the developments of the last two weeks and it is not good. A lot of the points I’ve seen made here on 2p2, but usually by conspiracy minded/anti-vax types so it gets ignored.
Intelligencer has generally erred on the side of sensationalism this whole pandemic. I got to where I stopped reading them.

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020...infection.html

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020...1-7m-dead.html
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08-09-2021 , 12:50 PM


Arnie spitting what should be common sense. But isn't because a doctor or scientist was wrong once therefore all opinions are equally valid in perpetuity.
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08-09-2021 , 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by steamraise
must be fake news, everyone on 2+2 knows covid is a nothingburger for under 50's
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08-09-2021 , 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99


Arnie spitting what should be common sense. But isn't because a doctor or scientist was wrong once therefore all opinions are equally valid in perpetuity.
Funny how I dont see the date on that. Im pretty sure that was from the very beginning. I wonder if his opinion has changed as Fauci has shown he is a POS and the therapeutic jab doesnt work.
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08-09-2021 , 01:08 PM


You won't be surprised to find noted immunity expert Matt has a lot of authoritative opinions on Covid.



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08-09-2021 , 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by tgiggity
Best part is the study says the opposite of what he thinks it does.
Simply the price of doing your own research.

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Originally Posted by whatthejish
Where do these idiots come from.
USA#1 is my guess. These ****ers are all around me.

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Originally Posted by nutella virus
It only took 6 of their members to die. I am really loving people this past year
When that collection plate starts coming back light, the boss notices.
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08-09-2021 , 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by pocket_zeros
A sample size of 4 young, healthy people dying within 10 days of each other strongly suggests that Covid has mutated in Jacksonville?
Absolutely. If that doesn't jump out at you as a statistical impossibility, then you haven't been paying attention.

https://assets.publishing.service.go...riefing_20.pdf
If you search for Table 4 here, you'll see the CFR for Delta, which overstates fatality rate by not accounting for many asymptomatic/mild infections, is 0.0%. Four healthy people under the age of 35 who go to the same church dying of Covid is more than a statistical outlier, it's a statistical impossibility.

Again, I challenge you to prove that this pastor isn't lying. I did the work of grinding through obituaries, now you do the work to prove me wrong.

Last edited by APD0290; 08-09-2021 at 01:27 PM.
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08-09-2021 , 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99
Arnie spitting what should be common sense. But isn't because a doctor or scientist was wrong once therefore all opinions are equally valid in perpetuity.
The unwillingness to acknowledge subject matter expertise is a broad problem in the United States. Whether it's nutrition, medical issues, or whatever, you are bombarded in the United States with admonishments to "do your own research."

But for 99% of people, "doing your own research" means typing a few words into the google search bar and scanning for results that either reinforce your fears or otherwise confirm what you wanted to hear.

I'm not sure how to alleviate this problem, but banning advertisements for prescription drugs would be a good place to start. It's absurd that we encourage people to do their own research about medical issues and then pester their doctors to prescribe a specific medication.
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08-09-2021 , 01:39 PM
Yeah that is completely ridiculous.
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08-09-2021 , 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by APD0290
Absolutely. If that doesn't jump out at you as a statistical impossibility, then you haven't been paying attention.

https://assets.publishing.service.go...riefing_20.pdf
If you search for Table 4 here, you'll see the CFR for Delta, which overstates fatality rate by not accounting for many asymptomatic/mild infections, is 0.0%. Four healthy people under the age of 35 who go to the same church dying of Covid is more than a statistical outlier, it's a statistical impossibility.

Again, I challenge you to prove that this pastor isn't lying. I did the work of grinding through obituaries, now you do the work to prove me wrong.
Table 4 of the UK document you linked shows 74 Delta-variant deaths out of 265,749 hospitalized cases below the age of 50, over a six month period. The current full-vaccination rate of the UK is 75%. In Florida, the rate of full-vaccination in Duval county (where church is located) is 44%. Thus the mortality numbers aren't comparable and 4 deaths of young people is nowhere near a statistical impossibility.

I have no idea if the pastor is lying or not. That claim is tangential to your statistical claim.
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08-09-2021 , 01:45 PM


Well this should fuel the grist mill for a few days.
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08-09-2021 , 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Danny McCoy
Funny how I dont see the date on that. Im pretty sure that was from the very beginning. I wonder if his opinion has changed as Fauci has shown he is a POS and the therapeutic jab doesnt work.
I think he posted it last week after getting his shot.
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08-09-2021 , 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by APD0290
Again, I challenge you to prove that this pastor isn't lying. I did the work of grinding through obituaries, now you do the work to prove me wrong.
You think obituaries always list the cause of death?
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08-09-2021 , 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by whatthejish
Dude’s name is literally Larry Brilliant.
At least it's not Brillant. (Any dailywtf readers?)
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