Lol

Ray,

Maybe it will mutate the other way, like in The Andromeda Strain.

Seriously, though, while your suggestion in the second paragraph is the right thing to do, it will never fly in USA #n.

Too many people don't believe in Mr. Spock's assertion that the good of the many outweighs the good of the few.

Lolllll

Best of luck to all of you.

Island Food Pantry


Thanks deuces.

They're vaccinating the "general elderly" now in Kansas City. It's 24 degrees outside today. Hundreds of 80 yr olds are lined up, standing 6' apart, outside, waiting their turn.

Brilliant. Drive up vaccinations never occurred to them?

Thinning the herd to conserve vaccine. Genius!

YEAH, MAYBE.

What a novel ****ing thought.

There is no way we could ever isolate in the US. $1800 in relief checks aren't gonna pay the bills. The idea is completely comical as there is no support from our government.

They may as well have just told us "Stay home and isolate, pay your bills with monopoly money!"

Hold on, the monopoly money doesn't arrive until after the next stimulus

Has any virus been "controlled" thru (lack of) physical activity? Seems to me they all do their thing and go dormant for x years and pop up again.

This is so painfully close to the point.

they mutate and change to help themselves live on. but this strain has improved itself and made it more virulent as in the english and south african changes.

the chance that it becomes deadly and not able to be stopped is worth taking strong measures. even though i as everyone else wont like that at all.

so the only way to stop it likely is
herd immunity by infecting most of the world
vaccination the same or
isolating everyone until it dies out or down.

but doing things slowly makes it much more likely to happen.

everyone would only have to isolate for the time it takes for no one to still be contagious. that may be only a month.

I’m with you Ray. Unfortunately it doesn’t seem possible no matter how bad this thing mutates.

Hell movie theaters are opening back up in my area. Co-workers inviting me out to eat indoors. I sure hope the variants don’t wreak havoc, and case numbers continue to trend down.

A highly accurate, widely available rapid test seems like the most important thing behind the vaccine, to me. Restaurants, employers, retail stores, casinos, airlines, etc being able to give someone a test before allowing them into their establishment would be huge. I don't know what I would pay, but having a test to give people before allowing them in my home would be so great. I'd probably pay $19.99 each, maybe more?

I think the next "stimulus" will end up being closer to the $600 we just got rather than $1400 or $2000.

He's a real strange person who seems to get some sort of weird pleasure in telling people that the fun things they like are over forever. Best left on ignore.

he predicted there would be no football etc, but he was right that there SHOULDN'T have been football etc.

he was right with all the other stuff he said in those posts. he was just wrong that corporate power would force football on us, sacrificing human life so they could make a profit. but that's nothing new. we sacrifice 30k americans every year to car crashes so we can drive cars around

Plesse stop comparing car crashes to a virus-just stop

Compliance where I live (southern california) is basically ZERO. Massage places open. Restaurants with indoor dining. No one wearing masks.

A guy I know that manages a small boat company has not enforced masks on customers during the entire pandemic. He enforces mask wearing for his staff, but some of them don’t even wear them correctly. It’s a mostly outdoors vessel. The owner is an anti-masker so he has capitulated. I don’t think he has ever been legally required to force customers to wear masks, so he didn’t.

I’ve been very critical of him not enforcing masks on his customers. In my opinion he is endangering his employees' lives, since they have to interact with customers face to face. But, since this mandate came down from Biden’s EO, it looked like he will have to enforce it finally (since boat companies are regulated by the coast guard).

But what he did is he’s using a ****ing legal loophole - he’s saying that if a customer is asked to wear a mask and they refuse, nothing will be done by the employees. He is claiming that his workplace violence policy he submitted to the county dictates that he should try to defuse a potentially violent situation, so the goal of the operators will be not to enforce the mask, but to get the trip over as quickly as possible and encourage other customers to socially distance from the non-masker. Even if the non-masker boards the vessel without a mask, he won’t be denied. Making the mandate essentially worthless as soon as everyone figures it out.

I think this is chickenshit and horrible. I’m honestly appalled. This guy KNOWS the science. he’s not a denier or a "just a cold" person or an anti-masker. This is just another example of how non-compliance has been the norm around where I live. It’s honestly everywhere, and it’s not a shocker our hospitals are full (literally, actually full).

600 plenty and if need more, than later. after the last one used car sales went way up. that where the stimulus went not for food or rent.

a quick test is good but only good for the day.

i think having an antibody test and have that show you have had it, or have had the vaccine two weeks prior. then you can feel comfortable the person wont infect you. but you still need a mask to be more sure especially if a high risk person.

all you can do is lower your risk.

I hope we keep doing this

Grunching

What about putting stipulations about how the money can be spent? So the money isn't used on cars or PS5's? Like food stamps but more stuff (rent, meds, utilities, etc etc)