One funny (also frightening I guess) thing I realized is probably going to happen will be the bifurcation of society between vaccinated/unvaccinated. I'll predict that (a) by 10-12 months from now vaccines will be available to anyone who wants them, and (b) there will be a means to track who's been vaccinated, as a way to regulate access to concerts, sporting events, travel, etc. Obviously makes sense to ~90% of the population but will make the antivax dorks feel isolated and persecuted. Lord knows what knock-on effects that'll have.

many enterprising adventurists will try(and fail) to come up with a workaround to fake vaccinations certificates(or whatever) so they can go to concerts unvaccinated.

I'm sure golfnutt is already in the lab on that front.

yeah, people already fake covid tests, theyll just fake whatever the "ive been vaccinated" document is.

Just waiting for Zippy to roll in and help out.

Even have friends who have bought 'exemption' certificates so they don't have to wear masks.

Thankfully I work from home anyway, and only usually see those guys at get togethers once a year here, or in Vegas during the WSOP.

Time to go and see what Dr John's update is for the day. Have to thank whoever posted him first in one of the two C19 threads. He makes even dour news quite easy to take, such is his delivery.

TicketBastard already has an app for that. COVID-19 screening surcharge to follow.

If you've been vaccinated why do you care if you come in contact with someone who hasn't?

friday nov 27th will be the peak of most new cases in usa. peak for the whole pandemic.

im gonna guess 230k new cases that day

Seems ambitious since numbers will go down immediately after Thanksgiving.

My guess would be the 10th of Dec and 300k.

https://twitter.com/JohnDelaney/stat...145781248?s=19

Vaccine isn't 100% effective, I think the ones to be released first are like 90-94%

If almost everyone takes the vaccine, r0 quickly approaches zero and COVID is pretty much eradicated.

If like half the population takes it, the same effect of decreasing r0 should take place, but not nearly as dramatically, and even some people who got vaccinated will get COVID (though certainly the vast majority of cases will be unvaccinated).

oh yeah duh. didn't think of that. because of the holiday it'll be kinda like a weekend, and less numbers will come in.

already my prediction is wrong lol

Yes -- although interestingly, the Moderna people said that zero of the cases on the got-the-vaccine trial side of their phase 3 trial got serious cases. So it appears as though the vaccine is thus far close to 100 per cent effective as against serious cases or death.

In Northern Ireland we are going back into lockdown next Friday 27th.

Result? People rush out to complete their Xmas shopping this week = spike in cases over Xmas / New Year.

Is it your opinion that vaccines will roll out in 2021, and once 60-70% of the population is vaccinated life will return to more or less normal?

People will hug.

ill miss the virus. i like not having people crowd me all the time in places.

virus tamed in 2021
stock market soars at some point as people return to spending
toilet paper becomes common
annoying people start bumping into you again.
lines at restaurants and take away places
filthy air again
creepy old and fat people return to the streets
sitting three across again in a plane
all the n95 masks ive put aside for things like this become worthless
did i say stock market soars as the vaccine starts kicking in.

I think normal will be more like 2022.

Hasn't the stock market been soaring? Or am I just getting lucky?

[QUOTE=Ray Zee;56724263all the n95 masks ive put aside for things like this become worthless[/QUOTE]

Hang on to those N95s, you'll need 'em for wildfire season.

+1 on this. The market has been doing very well even though we are in a pandemic and over 200k people have died in the US. I feel like all of the money printed to stave off a downturn will come back to haunt us down the

In upstate NY, gyms/salons are closed in some areas along with no indoor dining. Its very odd bc I live in the suburbs and stuff is open but the downtown area (like 10-20 min drive from my house by car).... the restaurants and bars are closed. (well restaurants are ok for outside dining but its winter) I feel it should be close all in the area or not all. I feel kinda bad for bar owners as wednesday is a huge boozing night. I think its great they shut down though because you know way too many people would go out on Wed if they didn't shut down bars.

I find it really worrisome so many people are traveling for the holidays. IDK why people can't just zoom call their family and have a conversation.

I still cannot believe I let all you nasty people breathe on me for so long.

I predict that I keep rocking the mask well after this thing is gone (if it gets gone).

WAY too many people traveling and not getting it. Figuratively speaking...

Numbers are marginally down from previous years. Not even close to what the country needs. As I said on like the first page of this thread or the other, this country is just too damn selfish atm.

Edit:

The number of flights is not a good measure for number of people travelling if those flights are mostly empty (not saying they are, but this was my experience travelling over the summer). Most of the airlines are required by law to maintain their routes.

OK, who had "Undead Danish minks rise from the dead to spread vaccine-resistant Corona virus"?

https://www.scmp.com/news/world/euro...r-botched-mass