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07-13-2013 , 12:26 AM
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Originally Posted by ImSavy
no
okay thanks

just to be clear, i meant with my question if there already limpers on the hand and i check the BB, that does not mean i am also limping right?
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07-13-2013 , 12:58 AM
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Originally Posted by efra
okay thanks

just to be clear, i meant with my question if there already limpers on the hand and i check the BB, that does not mean i am also limping right?
No, it means you checked the BB.
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07-13-2013 , 06:46 AM
I felt like making a thread about this but it's too low content and wouldn't contribute to the forum.

I keep withdrawing profits at low stakes to support my funds while I am traveling. It prevents me from moving up to the stakes I should be playing which is very annoying.

On NL20 stakes where everyone is a level 1 thinker, I really wonder how I am meant to play this hand differently. Everything is completely readless

All effective stacks are 100BB

Villain raises UTG to 3BB.
folded to me on the BTN and I chose just to complete with AQo. I don't think I have to be dominated by AK necessarily because at lower stakes people tend to open worse aces UTG as well

SB calls and BB folded.

Pot stands at 10BB

Flop Q 5 2 rainbow

SB checks and UTG pots it 9BB.

If the flop was ace high I can just call with AQ and re evaluate, worrying about AK dominating me with a pretty good frequency.
But on Q high I feel like I have to value raise with AQ vs the UTG raiser who cbets a lot of hands that I beat, at least that is what I expect without any reads. I have a blocker for AA so UTGs range only has KK that beats me a lot, he can also cbet with high pocket pairs like JJ.
If it was heads up I might have just called but with someone behind me I don't wanna just call, get SB to overcall with any piece that can improve to 2 pairs and beat me

So I make it 25BB as a value raise
SB folds and now UTG shoves 100BB

I really hate it, but at NL20 am I really meant to fold AQ on a Q high board in that spot?
Am I beat often enough for me to lay that down readless?

I felt like puking and typed that I felt like I was beat by KK or very unlikely a set.
I called and he had KK indeed. I just wonder if I should expect to always see KK there or I just got unlucky.
I had been card dead the last hour and was slightly tilted, which contributed to me making that call

I feel like I know what I am doing but I literally get angry playing poker every single day. I just hope I can avoid that it will affect my play

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07-13-2013 , 06:50 PM
if you get angry every day my only advise would be to not play tbh
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07-13-2013 , 11:12 PM
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Originally Posted by rosiepie888
if you get angry every day my only advise would be to not play tbh
Anger is a result of passion for the game, I just wish it didn't get the best of me this often. If you're careless you're not gonna get good enough to beat decent stakes.
I don't know if I can stop getting pissed off at the tables, but at least I hope I can stop letting it affect the way I play hands.
When I tilt I'll start opening more hands, barreling against calling stations knowing it's unlikely they will fold. Calling all in knowing that I'm beat a lot. Like in this hand even though it can't be that bad of a call
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07-14-2013 , 07:47 AM
Easy fold. You played it poorly.

Post it in unl and I'm sure people will give you feedback.
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07-14-2013 , 07:58 AM
What do people generally do when they are in the big blind with a hand like 83o and 2 or 3 passive players who love to float c-bets limp in? I hate checking here but I am also not comfortable raising with these kinds of hands out of position against this type of player.
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07-14-2013 , 08:02 AM
I check and then fold on the flop unless the flop is like 33x, or 83x, or 88x.
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07-14-2013 , 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by ImSavy
I check and then fold on the flop unless the flop is like 33x, or 83x, or 88x.
This.

Fancy play syndrome is a horrible disease. Try penicillin.
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07-14-2013 , 11:36 AM
What is chance of hitting a pair if you go all in on a missed flop? aka you have turn + river remaining to save you
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07-14-2013 , 12:25 PM
Hi. Less of a beginner now than I was, but this seemed the best place for this question.

So I like to use Sharkscope to track my results as HM doesn't catch all of my Sng results and I'm too lazy to try and fix it.

In sharkscope when I search myself and select the "filter by stakes" graph, the stakes are listed without the rake included. So is the ROI for each stake, as shown in the graph, calculated with or without the rake being accounted for?

Thanks is advance
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07-14-2013 , 12:50 PM
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HM doesn't catch all of my Sng results
Import your tournament summaries.
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07-14-2013 , 01:33 PM
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Import your tournament summaries.
Cheers for the reply. Where would I find those?

I am still curious about the way Sharkscope calculates things too
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07-14-2013 , 07:16 PM
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Cheers for the reply. Where would I find those?

I am still curious about the way Sharkscope calculates things too
If you mean tournaments that you are in for one hand it does, just not until you reload it.
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07-15-2013 , 11:48 AM
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What is chance of hitting a pair if you go all in on a missed flop? aka you have turn + river remaining to save you
you have 6 outs twice, so using the rule of 2 & 4: 4 * 6 = ~24%
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07-15-2013 , 01:46 PM
sup yall...i just finished reading a beginners strategy(FLHM) in a book im reading..and been practicing it...i would like to play live tournaments at my local casinos(more dead money)...and i wanted to take a video lesson on (MTT STRATEGY) I KNOW NOTHING OF MTT...what im trying to ask is...would it be a bad move to study the MTT strategy while practicing the beginners strategy??(even tho i got down the beginners strategy pretty decent)...
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07-15-2013 , 01:57 PM
^of course not. The more you learn and think about situations the better.

Obviously, there is a limit to how much you can take in and effectively apply at the tables, but everyone is different.

There's no harm in reading up on some MTT basics, like how to play early levels, or how to play with less than 20bbs, just don't overdo it. Maybe take on some basics, go play a tourney and see how you find it and what things you struggles with, then come back and do some more study.

If you can play online, maybe try some micro stakes 90 or 180 man SNGs which will recreate some of the situations you may find yourself in at a tourney.

Good luck
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07-15-2013 , 02:30 PM
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^of course not. The more you learn and think about situations the better.

Obviously, there is a limit to how much you can take in and effectively apply at the tables, but everyone is different.

There's no harm in reading up on some MTT basics, like how to play early levels, or how to play with less than 20bbs, just don't overdo it. Maybe take on some basics, go play a tourney and see how you find it and what things you struggles with, then come back and do some more study.

If you can play online, maybe try some micro stakes 90 or 180 man SNGs which will recreate some of the situations you may find yourself in at a tourney.

Good luck
thanks alot...that was very helpful...i just didnt want mess up the way i play...but i guess learning a lil basics wouldnt hurt...i know nothing of sng iether..ive only played cash games.....but ill do a lil pratcice on there as well...thanks again.
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07-16-2013 , 08:38 AM
Why is going "on tilt" called "tilt"?

Is it something to do with pinball tables, when they tilt, you automatically lose your balls?
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07-16-2013 , 12:29 PM
Exactly that, yes
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07-16-2013 , 06:06 PM
What are the differences between implied odds and pot odds?
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07-16-2013 , 07:13 PM
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What are the differences between implied odds and pot odds?
Pods odds: I'll give you $5K for your car.
Implied odds: I'm buying $5K in Microsoft stock because I heard Gates is coming back to pull a Jobs.
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07-16-2013 , 08:56 PM
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Pods odds: I'll give you $5K for your car.
Implied odds: I'm buying $5K in Microsoft stock because I heard Gates is coming back to pull a Jobs.
So pot odds are basically straight up odds of a certain card coming out, while implied odds take into account the probability of my cards coming out + the fold equity of my opponent if I make a bet?
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07-16-2013 , 09:39 PM
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So pot odds are basically straight up odds of a certain card coming out, while implied odds take into account the probability of my cards coming out + the fold equity of my opponent if I make a bet?
Yes, pot odds are straight odds. Implied odds take into account getting paid when your draw hits ie. More difficult to get paid on flushes than straights.
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07-16-2013 , 10:46 PM
Fold equity is fold equity - it's a completely different thing. Implied odds are "If I make this investment now (calling with a flush draw) how much will I make when I cash in my stocks (hit my flush and get paid off like a slot machine because villain doesn't know how to fold)?"

Pot odds are, "Because this car has such low mileage (the pot is very big) and is being sold by a housewife who go it as part of the divorce and she just wants to get rid of her no good husband's favorite toy so she's asking way below book value (the bet I have to call is very low) that buying this car is a helluva deal (even though I don't have a great hand I only have to win the pot 20% of the time)."
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