I was wondering if my 20k gap between chips won and net expected chips won is normal for the amount of 1265 spin and go tournaments?



I am new to poker and pokertracker.

Very normal.

Regarding Bankroll:

Is is possible that 2NL and 5NL are simply too low a stakes for building a bankroll?

I only say this because a buddy rationalized it in this sense:

Something like 10NL is easier because its more fishier, and playing at a higher stake builds your bankroll bigger. All the decent sensible players are playing 2NL and 5NL in order to build their bankroll properly ala this site and therefore you run into more solid regs. This combined with the stakes results in a slower and grindier ascent into playing low stakes.

Myself I have 125$ on stars, I've been on and off into poker for abut 2 years now and i feel as tho I am one of those sensible 2NL or 5NL players that you encounter, is my friend right? Should I just play 10NL even though it is very aggressive?

Just though it'd be interesting to discuss.

no

No.

Edit: lol sixfour, didn't see your post before posting.

Sooo were sticking with 2 and 5 I suppose.

Stick to 2 and 5 until you're rolled for 10NL and are actually consistently beating 2NL and 5NL. 10NL is not fishier in any way shape or form lol

Can confirm 10NL is substantially tougher than 5NL.

The rake is probably considerably less on most sites though

Apparently Stars feels differently than you now.

There is a running joke in these forums about beginners who want to move up to a level where players "will respect their raises."

The truth is that your experience grinding $5 online tournaments or 1/2 cash is valuable, because you have to be able to beat any kind of player. Look at it this way:

Q. You're in the World Series of Poker Main Event. What kind of player will you face on day one?

A. Every kind. Pros who want to win millions will be there. So will some average players who got in on a satellite. You will also have guys who don't have a clue, but the WSOP is on their bucket list and at age 50 they finally got the money together to do it.

If you don't know how to handle bad players at 1/2, you won't be able to do it at 10/20.

Apparently they do about spinwiz being abuse. That said, my claim that many people manureg and are large winners still stands, so calling spins "dominated" by software abusers is pretty overblown.

That is why I didn't quote that part of your earlier reply. our definition of dominated apparently differs but I am not a spin reg/player so you likely have more insight and I will defer to your opinion on the matter

Should we wait PT4 to import all the hands before start playing to see HUD?

yes

So I just put 20 USD on Pokerstars. What NL game would you guys recommend for me to build my roll? I'm a newbie.

2nl and study.

Play 2NL and absolutely nothing else, don't even bother with tournaments until you have a decent sized roll.

Also i don't know how much you plan on buying in for but 20USD is too small of a roll if you buy in for max imo. I personally recommend starting out with at least $50 in your account

Hey, how do you determine is player good or not in sharkscope if he has lots of games but hasn't opted in? Is bigger ability number meaning hes better?

I have thought for a while about making money of poker but i'am only 17 atm and not old enough to play with real money.

My question is, If i practice poker with playmoney and learn strategies from forums, videos etc... for a year will it be likely that i can start making money from micro-stakes from the moment i turn 18 ?
//ps i know i have the right mindset towords poker

maybe, but probably not. and no, you don't know

Playing for real money is just different.

Let's say that you run an experiment. Find ten college students who no nothing about NLHE. Teach them the rules and basic strategy and have them play some play money SNGs for a week.

The next week, have them play $1 SNGs. They will play the real money SNGs differently. It's not a lot of money, but it's still real money. If you changed it up and bought each student into some $50 SNGs they will play even more differently.

When your opponents are using play money, they raise you just because it's fun. When it's real money, they think about their decisions. When you're playing for real money it changes everything.

I play mostly $50 live tournaments. I'm on a nasty downswing (standard for a tournament specialist) and I haven't cashed in a while. Yesterday I played a tournament with 50 players with 5 players getting paid. I finished 8th.

Intellectually I know that long winning and losing streaks are part of the deal. But I really wanted a high finish to give my bankroll a boost and I didn't get it. It hurt.

I've been thinking about my losing streak and I think I found some leaks, some things I can work on to plug some of the holes in my game.

Look at the sentence above. Is anyone in a play money tournament going to care enought to think like that? Real money is an entirely different animal.

Im not so much thinking about the difference between playmoney and real money. I know that when people play real money (even if its micro-stakes) are going to play more serious and think more about the decisions.

But what im implying is if practicing poker for a year without playing with real money can still give you an edge when it comes to real money.

(My plan is to start playing online nl cash games)

It's important to be comfortable with the hand rankings and spot what kind of hands are possible. Past that, play money isn't good and it'll just get you into bad habits.

The best way to 'practice' like that would be to watch live play coaching videos and play along with the coach.