@PP66 - look for a recent BQ thread called 'beating fishes'. Two great vids linked in there will probably really help your game re fish killing

I meant Tx sorry was 6am

Don't we all just ****ing love turbo night.. -.-
40-minutes to wait for some horrible structured MTTs to be implemented in the schedule..

@TDA: I watched and reviewed your video. I have questions and comments about a few hands, but first I want to write some general thoughts about your video and about the information you give.

I think you're adressing things that are too complicated for the regular 2nl player (I often refer to them as beginning players or new players). Sometimes you make plays that they'll simply not understand. They don't know why exactly it is a good play and as we all know, just simply copying something that you saw in a video is not going to end well. A few examples are some imo pretty loose iso's which I adress later on. And the terms that you use are sometimes a bit too difficult for the average 2nl player. You need to think about the audience you're making this video for (I will say this a couple of times later on, the structure of this post is a bit messy as I write this after I wrote comments about hands in the video). Sometimes you do say that if you play 2nl, you don't have to think about x or about y, but I would just keep the whole video simple so that the people who watch it don't get confused.

I also think you need to pay attention to your speaking. Sometimes you're going too fast and it becomes hard to hear what you're saying. Other times you're not speaking loud enough. Focus on speaking clearly (loud enough and not too fast). This is really important imo.

Lastly, I want to say that you did a good job on the video in terms of going through hands. Though I think some things are too advanced for 2nl, you make good points and give good reasons for making plays.



Here are the comments/questions about some hands in your video:

@4:20, Q8o : You’re right about being ablo to isolate fish pretty wide, but I think Q8 is too wide. You’re talking about playing a TAG-style (the style that the people who play 2nl should aim for to play) a couple of minutes earlier, but I don’t think iso’ing w/ Q8o (even though BTN vs CO) is standard TAG play at 2nl.

@5:00, 44: You say “sometimes we can 3bet here” but i think that, at 2nl, this basically never is an option. I couldn’t really understand your reasoning for 3betting but I guess it’s because OR is a SS and we wouldn’t mind getting it in vs him. But because of the level of play at 2nl, there is a good chance that even when we 3bet, we get to the flop 3way. I like your fold though. Many new players would call in this spot to setmine but you explain that this isn’t a good spot for setmining, which is important for new players to realise.

@6:10, AQo: I think you played the hand fine, but just a comment on your commentary: you say “3betting is probably +EV in a vacuum”. New players probably don’t really get what this means. Try to keep your information simple when you aim at an audience like this.

@19:00, Q9s: Again, don’t iso. You can iso because you know what you’re doing, but I wouldn’t recommend most 2nl players to iso in that spot since they don’t really know why they should iso. Iso’ing in this spot is simply too loose and too tricky for players who are trying to learn how to play TAG

@21:30, AQo: not cbetting the flop because of the reasons is actually pretty good, I (as a barrel monkey) have actually never thought about spots like these in that way. But don’t you think that people at slightly higher limits like 5nl and 10nl will bet vs you b/c you show weakness? In other words, should we cbet at levels like 5nl and 10nl in spots like these because villains are more competitive (probably) and are less likely to check behind?

@24:00, 55: Why do you prefer checking flop over betting? You say it is because of showdown value, but we actually don’t have that much equity compared to villains equity. In fact, it even might be pretty close (we have ~45%)? I prefer betting and taking it down right now because almost every rundown is going to be pretty scary for us… Is that bad?

@25:00, 22: I (and with me many other beginners) should fold 22 UTG imo. Like I said in a spot earlier on, you can play it because you know exactly what you’re doing, but a lot of beginning players wouldn’t know how to play this properly if called.


@28:00, 57s: Same as I said earlier on about iso’ing, wouldn’t recommend it to new players. Although I have to say I like this spot to iso much more than the other two I mentioned.

@34:00, AQs: Why don’t bet? Yes, we have SD-value but: 1) if we bet, we get him to fold the hands he would normally check down to SD. So he’s going to play those hands passive anyway, and with betting we prevent him from gaining equity on the turn or winning the hand on the river. So wouldn’t it be better to cbet flop? 2) We might (I doubt it since it’s 2nl, but who knows) fold out better hands, like smaller pp’s.

@36:00, T7s: Don’t like your iso, too loose.


Sorry for the wall of text, I just realised it's kind of a lot

-$200 day. Had a -$100 day a few days ago. Roll's at $150. I'm playing terribad and running like aids. I'm out. Watch out for the upcoming "sick of the grind, roll on the line imo" thread

Also, standard here?

PokerStars - $0.16 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $16.00 (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 12.50, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 26)
Hero (SB): $27.80
BB: $16.24 (VPIP: 17.50, PFR: 15.00, 3Bet Preflop: 6.06, Hands: 83)
UTG: $16.41 (VPIP: 30.77, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 27)
CO: $19.79 (VPIP: 23.22, PFR: 20.38, 3Bet Preflop: 14.77, Hands: 214)

Hero posts SB $0.08, BB posts BB $0.16

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.24) Hero has A K

UTG calls $0.16, fold, BTN raises to $0.64, Hero raises to $1.84, fold, fold, BTN raises to $4.96, Hero raises to $27.80 and is all-in, BTN calls $11.04 and is all-in

Flop: ($32.32, 2 players) 2 T T

Turn: ($32.32, 2 players) 5

River: ($32.32, 2 players) 9

looks completely fine

It looks like i have to start reading TMGOP again.
On a good side, more hands on people and a ton of bad cbet spots to be explored.
Also lesson learned with being OOP vs aggrofish/fish (the red line leak)

But well thats poker.

What stakes are you playing that you lost 66% of your roll in 2 days?

Edit: Hand history wasn't there before i see you edited it. You should definitely move down to 10NL around the $200 mark at most imo.

If you hit 20 BI of the limit below you then definitely move down, i tend to move down before if need be.

used the 20BI rule, from $500 to $320 I was playing 16nl, but ego got stuck and I kept on playing 16nl even though I was underrolled. I think playing crap is one thing, but dealing with the emotional swings and all I don't think I can handle it.

Gl bro what i did when i hit this was withdrew my roll, left $135 and hit it back up from 10NL again going from fundamentals. Definitely helped.

are you joking?

speaking of run good...


one bad month... one good month lol

Up to $61 profit at 4nl now. Need another $59 to move up to 10nl, so I'm halfway there. Will be cutting it close to get there by the end of the month maybe, although I did play like a donk last week which didn't help. 10,000 hands played this month which is a little below what I'd have liked - after transitioning to 6max I've had to cut down on the tables though until I get used to it.

Everyone running good except me?

PokerStars - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

CO: $4.15 (VPIP: 45.16, PFR: 22.58, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 34)
Hero (BTN): $5.00
SB: $5.04 (VPIP: 23.53, PFR: 17.65, 3Bet Preflop: 14.29, Hands: 34)
BB: $9.53 (VPIP: 14.71, PFR: 11.76, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 34)
UTG: $28.20 (VPIP: 26.47, PFR: 20.59, 3Bet Preflop: 16.67, Hands: 34)

SB posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.07) Hero has A A

fold, CO raises to $0.10, Hero raises to $0.45, fold, BB calls $0.40, fold

Flop: ($1.02, 2 players) 5 A 9
BB bets $0.55, Hero raises to $1.60, BB raises to $9.08 and is all-in, Hero calls $2.95 and is all-in

Turn: ($10.12, 2 players) 7

River: ($10.12, 2 players) 5


One outed on the river! He had only 4% when the money went in

More interesting hand. Somewhat aggro player, had 3bet TT before.
Folding turn seems weak, I suppose calling does too!
What do on turn?

PokerStars - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG: $7.51 (VPIP: 15.91, PFR: 14.77, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 92)
MP: $2.17 (VPIP: 45.45, PFR: 18.18, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 24)
Hero (CO): $5.07
BTN: $5.16 (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 22.22, Hands: 24)
SB: $9.40 (VPIP: 8.33, PFR: 8.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 24)
BB: $22.40 (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 20.83, 3Bet Preflop: 14.29, Hands: 24)

SB posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.07) Hero has K K

fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.15, fold, fold, BB calls $0.10

Flop: ($0.32, 2 players) 2 J 9
BB checks, Hero bets $0.25, BB calls $0.25

Turn: ($0.82, 2 players) 9
BB bets $0.55, Hero calls $0.55

River: ($1.92, 2 players) A
BB bets $1.40, fold

Is the PF call here loose? I got no idea on pot odds :s

PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $5.21
Hero (SB): $15.70
BB: $18.32 (VPIP: 16.09, PFR: 12.64, 3Bet Preflop: 9.09, Hands: 93)
UTG: $23.24 (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 13)
MP: $11.97 (VPIP: 28.28, PFR: 23.23, 3Bet Preflop: 9.09, Hands: 103)
CO: $2.29 (VPIP: 42.86, PFR: 19.05, 3Bet Preflop: 11.11, Hands: 21)

Hero posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has 5 5

UTG raises to $0.30, MP calls $0.30, CO calls $0.30, BTN calls $0.30, Hero calls $0.25, BB raises to $2.80, UTG calls $2.50, MP calls $2.50, CO calls $1.99 and is all-in, BTN calls $2.50, Hero calls $2.50

Flop: ($16.29, 6 players) J 5 6
Hero checks, BB bets $15.52 and is all-in, fold, fold, BTN calls $2.41 and is all-in, Hero calls $12.90 and is all-in

Turn: ($44.50, 4 players) 2

River: ($44.50, 4 players) Q

I'd say so. Calling 28bb's with a hand that only flops the equity we're looking for 1 in ~8 times isn't ideal. I'd fold pre, despite the results you showed. Calling preflight is going to be a losing play in the long run I think.

I thought it would be just wasn't 100% sure results don't really matter tbh, nice ofc, but i thought it was too loose. I really should learn more of the maths side of poker. TDA gave me alot of reading on it but i find the studying side of pack super hard to do -_-

villain's ITT and I pretty much wanted to donate a stack to him by calling the bet in the end. guy showed 44.

lol what a fish

Learning process:

$0.25/$0.50 No Limit Holdem
PokerStars
4 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
CO ($120.24) 240bb
BTN ($61.84) 124bb
Hero (SB) ($50) 100bb
BB ($20) 40bb

Pre-Flop: ($0.75, 4 players) Hero is SB J 9
1 fold, BTN raises to $1, Hero raises to $3.50, 1 fold, BTN calls $2.50

Flop: 8 Q 3 ($7.50, 2 players)
Hero bets $3.50, BTN raises to $10, Hero calls $6.50

Turn: 7 ($27.50, 2 players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

River: 6 ($27.50, 2 players)
Hero goes all-in $36.50, BTN calls $36.50

Final Pot: $100.50
BTN shows a pair of Sixes
5 6
Hero shows high card Queen
J 9

BTN wins $99 (net +$49)

Hero lost $50



$0.25/$0.50 No Limit Holdem
PokerStars
5 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG ($76.78) 154bb
CO ($55.49) 111bb
BTN ($51.77) 104bb
Hero (SB) ($119.92) 240bb
BB ($160.85) 322bb

Pre-Flop: ($0.75, 5 players) Hero is SB 10 A
2 folds, BTN raises to $1, Hero raises to $3.50, 1 fold, BTN calls $2.50

Flop: 9 K 4 ($7.50, 2 players)
Hero bets $4, BTN raises to $10, Hero calls $6

Turn: K ($27.50, 2 players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

River: 8 ($27.50, 2 players)
Hero bets $14, BTN folds

Final Pot: $27.50

Hero wins $40.26 (net +$12.76)

BTN lost $13.50

Some non-tilted hands from yesterdays session.

Microgaming - €0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: €9.63 (VPIP: 45.16, PFR: 16.13, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 33)
Hero (BB): €10.95
UTG: €2.75 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 8)
MP: €3.67 (VPIP: 19.05, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 22)
CO: €10.37 (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 27.78, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 54)
BTN: €13.95 (VPIP: 27.27, PFR: 18.18, 3Bet Preflop: 15.38, Hands: 33)

SB posts SB €0.05, Hero posts BB €0.10

Pre Flop: (pot: €0.15) Hero has 9 9

fold, MP raises to €0.20, fold, fold, SB calls €0.15, Hero calls €0.10

Flop: (€0.60, 3 players) 6 6 3
SB checks, Hero bets €0.40, MP calls €0.40, fold

Turn: (€1.40, 2 players) 2
Hero bets €0.70, MP calls €0.70

River: (€2.80, 2 players) T
Hero checks, MP bets €1.40, Hero calls €1.40

h2: timeout folded here but actually i like the fold. Can this fish have anything else than AA/KK? flat pre? was kind of confused what the PF action was.

Microgaming - €0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: €18.73 (VPIP: 66.10, PFR: 8.47, 3Bet Preflop: 5.71, Hands: 59)
Hero (BB): €17.20
UTG: €4.19 (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 4)
CO: €26.28 (VPIP: 48.65, PFR: 18.92, 3Bet Preflop: 9.52, Hands: 37)
BTN: €14.47 (VPIP: 71.88, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 7.14, Hands: 32)

SB posts SB €0.05, Hero posts BB €0.10

Pre Flop: (pot: €0.15) Hero has K A

fold, fold, BTN calls €0.10, SB raises to €0.75, Hero raises to €2.00, fold, SB raises to €7.00, fold

h3: MUBS vs this nit. Expecting a 6x probably :/. But is the DB fine here? He will have FD some of the time.

Microgaming - €0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG: €14.85 (VPIP: 45.83, PFR: 12.50, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 25)
CO: €10.38 (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 20)
Hero (BTN): €11.01
SB: €10.22 (VPIP: 41.35, PFR: 11.54, 3Bet Preflop: 5.71, Hands: 104)
BB: €10.87 (VPIP: 14.81, PFR: 12.96, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 55)

SB posts SB €0.05, BB posts BB €0.10

Pre Flop: (pot: €0.15) Hero has Q Q

UTG calls €0.10, fold, Hero raises to €0.40, fold, BB calls €0.30, UTG calls €0.30

Flop: (€1.25, 3 players) T 6 6
BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets €0.95, BB calls €0.95, fold

Turn: (€3.15, 2 players) K
BB checks, Hero bets €1.55, BB raises to €4.50, fold

h4: pretty much sums up the session. Villain is a maniac who sat next to me. Should leave the table next time if this seating occurs.

Microgaming - €0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: €22.92 (VPIP: 29.87, PFR: 22.08, 3Bet Preflop: 4.55, Hands: 78)
Hero (BB): €10.90
UTG: €7.95 (VPIP: 73.91, PFR: 30.43, 3Bet Preflop: 23.08, Hands: 70)
MP: €10.81 (VPIP: 45.60, PFR: 16.00, 3Bet Preflop: 4.44, Hands: 126)
CO: €28.86 (VPIP: 18.42, PFR: 13.16, 3Bet Preflop: 13.33, Hands: 76)
BTN: €20.72 (VPIP: 22.95, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 62)

SB posts SB €0.05, Hero posts BB €0.10

Pre Flop: (pot: €0.15) Hero has T T

UTG calls €0.10, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to €0.40, UTG calls €0.30

Flop: (€0.85, 2 players) 7 2 6
Hero bets €0.65, UTG calls €0.65

Turn: (€2.15, 2 players) 9
Hero bets €1.20, UTG calls €1.20

River: (€4.55, 2 players) A
Hero bets €2.00, UTG raises to €4.00, fold

Had to withdraw my roll due to IRL emergency... bleh
Thats it for the pokers for me, although I have one horse running tonight and could still luckbox the vpp challenge thing, but if those fail no more poker this month.
Probably gonna start a little challenge +PGC thread in January, so look out for that.
GL to those on the tables!

@Deepz, you have any read on villain in J9o hand ? Care to explain your thought process on flop because calling the reraise there seems awful to me.

Why does it seem awful?
He doesnt rep anything and I dont expect him to continue with bluffs ott
Preflop was bad, ik

It seems awful because even though he's bluffing when he reraises that board most of the time, he's doing it with A/K high most of the time and we're folding anytime a K or A pops up ott or otr. Even a J on last 2 streets does not mean a whole lot, you're behind JT/KJ/AJ there all of which are in villain's range. I'd prefer a 3b-fold otf rather than bet-call.

Waiting for TDA/Gamma here to give a better analysis as to which line is better/worse or if an alternate line is better suited for this situation.