Ye I dunno, he probably has to call there because it's like the best hand in his range I'd imagine. It's quite funny that he's gone into x/c because he blocks the NFD and then convinced himself that you're likely bluffing with a missed draw even though he blocks a lot of your FD combos and the board ain't that drawy.
Anyway going to try and play 300 HU Hyper SNG's today. So I've got 24 hours. Will probably update every hundred or so, get 100 in at least before I go bed I think.
His turn check is ****ing horrendous, that's fer' true. And I disagree it's the best hand in his range, AT/A7 is better in this spot.
Only 1.50s, only have like $60 in my account and tbh I doubt I'd be profitable doing what I'm doing above the 3.50s anyway (that's just a guess though because I've never played 7s or higher). But I'm essentially just button clicking. Just clearing a bonus ASAP.
If I was to be playing properly I'd be playing 10nl zoom most likely, but having month off and starting up again properly in January.
Graph of me donking around in them so far, with about 20 or so since I posted in this thread inc.
I may or may not move up to 3.50's if my roll hits $100.
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Originally Posted by TheDefiniteArticle
His turn check is ****ing horrendous, that's fer' true. And I disagree it's the best hand in his range, AT/A7 is better in this spot.
"It's like" meaning roughly, i.e. probably has to be in his river calling range. And ye I think he should be betting the turn, really depends how much people shove money in the pot when they think people are capped though. Might not be that bad.
Decided to play a little session 1 tabling during break @ uni, pure as relaxation. Turned out to be quite a nice session, as in running 190bb/100 and sitting with 800BB nice.
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Because we checked back the flop, I would just check back the river. Hard to be bluffing with this line, and I don't think he's calling often enough with worse hands.
Assuming he's never turning Tx or 9x into a bluff, b/f small seems good. Seems pretty unlikely for a fish to bluff-raise over a small bet here, also pretty unlikely for him to have a hand to value c/r here. Maybe b/f small > check > jam.
River:($1.65, 2 players) J Hero bets $1.00, CO raises to $3.86, Hero raises to $4.43 and is all-in, CO calls $0.57
Spoiler:
Hero shows 5 5 (Full House, Fives full of Tens) (Pre 48%, Flop 77%, Turn 84%) CO shows T J (Full House, Tens full of Jacks) (Pre 52%, Flop 23%, Turn 16%) CO wins $10.07
H1 - you need to consider how you are going to make most money out of villain. The line you took will all too often just get called by non-nut hands as villains get MUBS (or are used to fish taking this line with the nuts!)
Sorry, Dunna100. Could you just expand on that? Are you saying my bet into him on the river will most of the time just get called and I don't win the maximum I possibly could? Are you suggesting a C/R or just shove? Or not to slow play it at all? Cheers
As much as I said yesterday that poker is about losing less than others would in the same situation, it's also about ensuring we make the most out of our big hands (as others do).
At 5nl we can get 3 streets from TPTK, and can just bet, bet, bet our big hands and expect to be called by worse because villain is only looking at his own hand. If he likes it, he's unlikely to fold NO MATTER WHAT. This is why we generally hold back on the bluffing at the micros, but I digress. Let's face it, how often have you said to yourself "zomg, how did he call with that?!"
So, here you flop the nuts as the PFR (OK TT is the nuts but w/e). You want to get stacks in with this hand if you can. So, plan your hand. How are you going to do that? If he has a T like you suggest, do you think he's ever folding? If he has no hand then you're unlikely to get any value anyway, right, unless you know he's a crazy bluffer when checked to?
If you decide to take the check/call line (and I think this is a mistake fwiw) then why donk the river? Will he not bet all Tx here, and then we can ch/raise?
In general you really really don't need to get fancy at these stakes (this comes from experience btw). Hit TP+ and bet it big for 3 streets unless the board gets ugly or you meet resistance. I'm not saying don't take anything else into account, but this should be your 'standard' play that you only deviate from if the situation necessitates
You're exactly right and it's usually the way I play and, shamefully, I have said the exact same thing to others (don't slow play, don't FPS etc). I guess I thought in my head I'll get more value later if I don't raise the flop but yeah, in hindsight, the river donk is pretty terrible.
I think I need a sticker next to my monitor: "You know the plan. STICK TO IT"
fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.62, BTN raises to $1.75, fold, fold, Hero raises to $4.00, BTN raises to $8.75, Hero raises to $29.80 and is all-in, BTN calls $18.25 and is all-in
Flop:($54.35, 2 players) 8 3 T
Turn:($54.35, 2 players) 4
River:($54.35, 2 players) Q
Spoiler:
Hero shows K K (One Pair, Kings) (Pre 17%, Flop 8%, Turn 5%) BTN shows A A (One Pair, Aces) (Pre 83%, Flop 92%, Turn 95%) BTN wins $52.35
Gah, you don't realise what a ****ing spack you sound like until you record your voice. I recorded a 2NL Zoom session, intended as a 'training video' if anyone's interested: