Ok, that's right, I really can't remember that old bonus system.

But after they changed the clearing requirements, it was not possible to get the promised 30% rakeback.

Check that
The maximum RB for palladium went from a 30% bonus to 22.22% cash
The maximum RB for gold went from 20% tournament tickets to 13.33% (!!!!!) tournament tickets, or 13.33% cash.

That is unacceptable.

Gold players need at the very minimum 20% RB tournament tickets as they were before, if not higher
Palladium players need tournament tickets certainly higher than 22.22% , and/or a top points for cash as high as 30% ( e.g. $1500 cash for 10000 points)

You are completely missing the point so maybe it's you who should just stfu.

Anyways at this point I'm pretty sure that Party is doing this on purpose just to mess with us and maybe get rid of most of the regs. You have to be really really ******ed to not do anything right. Just by reading this thread you can learn how to improve your by 10x your customers experience. You just don't want to, I'm pretty sure

hmm, i'm still a gold even though i earned over 2k points last month....

+1 listen to all above +$200 cash even available to silver..why discourage them from this?

And

1)Casino bonus are open to silver but yet cash isnt?.. why?
2)No consistency...reprice the higher tournament tickets.
3)Cant believe the deception with the old vs new program..seriously? Its for ONE WEEK only..we are not fools so dont treat us this way
4)Make these changes our your brand will seriously deteriorate and soon ceast to exist.
5) Goodluck

Your are struggling to get numbers in your big tournaments, but make tickets only available to gold and palladium??? Is it you think silver players don't have the mental capacity to play a tourney above $20? insane store.

Guys, let's wait for what the promos and discounts are before hating on the whole program.

Just because you are getting a bit less in the form of cash now, doesn't mean your overall rakeback-% will be lower in the end. Hopefully they come to their senses wrt the MTT tickets as well.

The changes aren't perfect and the way the whole thing was brought out was not thought out properly and wasn't open at all and Party deserves all the **** they are gonna get for it but I do prefer cash+promotions to no promotions and bonuses with big clearing requirements.

Getting better and better...

wise words by Lessu, couldnt articulate it any better myself. nevertheless for now this 2.0 thing seems to be a big disappointment

I'm kind of wondering why Party Poker has not put a $100,00 cash bonus (for 500*1800 points) in the store, as they seem to think that advertising a $1,000 bonus, which is just the $200 bonus, perfectly pro-rated, will some-how fly under the radar better?

Honestly, I'm leaving Party Poker because the sheer stupidity of how this was rolled-out, says to me that they're just messing around, and don't deserve my business.

Can you do player xfers from party to bwin?

Maybe some of my ideas, make a bit more sense now.

I expected exactly this. It's just surprising, they could have saved all these complaints by just giving a one month warning with complete disclosure on every change. It's a bit silly to market something as better if it really is not. It just gives the customers false hopes or expectations and then leaves them feeling tricked and ripped off.

Party will never learn. They think they have to be sneaky. A month ago they could have simply said with complete disclosure and let players plan how to use or build there current accumulated points. It's the way things are gone about that piss people off, more so than the changes themselve.

yes. I really wanted to give them the benefit of the doubt, but you were definitely right.

So I log on to see if there is a software update, and this is what I get:

I can't sit at a table, due to some stupid waiting list bug;
So I reboot and eventually I can sit at a table;
But a few hands in the software crashes;
So I quickly log back on, and see my stack is much smaller for some reason (this actually happened a few times and I have no confidence that I've not lost some dollars there);
Next hand I can't see my cards (they are blank);
About 10 mins later the software crashes again.
So I give up and log off.

Honestly, I hope for the sake of regs that the bonus situation gets sorted, but personally I couldn't care as I'm 100% done with this site once I've cleared my final existing bonus. In a lot of years I've never seen software as bad as this. It's beyond a joke.

Still staying on bronze level, even though I got over 100 points in February. Also got just Loyalty Laucher Bronze bonus to clear.

So very nice. How about getting something right with this farce with your "better loyalty promotions"?

And really... WTF!

Hyper rebuy changed from 1 hr rebuy period to 20 levels without any kind of note or understandable explanation.

I'm really on the verge of leaving PartyJoker all together. I don't understand how you can handle everything so ****ing BADLY. Every ****ing time I decide not to check some tournament that has had same structure 30 times before I have played it or so you CHANGE it like this for no reason. And you don't even show how long late reg lasts in the lobby, just "yes" or "no" which is rather irrelevant because rather certainly people can read "rebuy" and "freezeout" and understand their meaning. How about showing how long that tournament latereg lasts, especially if you're changing it daily?!

This is absurd. And outrageous.

Isn't 20 levels of 3 minutes also 1hr ?

Maybe they prefer the money their non-disclosure saved them, and don't care about complaints.

i want to use the mordern deck, but it gonna appear the traditional one all the time, althought i clicked the modern one and saved it!
whats the problem?

I cant see my scratchcards on bwin. Where the Cards should be is a sign of Adobe flah Player.

I updated Flash Player but it didnt help.

I'm a reg that recently came back to party after a few months break and the blazing fast seating scripts make me feel uneasy like some three-legged antelope as a pack of cheetahs close in. I can't imagine recreational players aren't equally freaked out when literally 2 seconds after they click "buy in" at a 1/6 the table the table is filled with 6 players, each new player popping in at warp speed to sit successively to the next available left-most seat of the rec player.

Scripts are insanely predatory, cause paranoia in the player pool, and give the regulars that use them a completely unmatchable advantage over those that don't. Something needs to be done about them ASAP.

It doesn't have to be a technical solution- Party could change their policy to forbid seating scripts. This would effectively discourage their use since Party would then be able to threaten account closure if players were repeatedly displaying the unmistakable tell-tales of seating scripts.


I want to add to all the other players agreeing that this flat rate structure makes very little sense (except to save clicks which nobody seems to care about). It certainly doesn't reward the highest volume players. I was close to purchasing the $15k incentive play bonus under the old store but held off after it was implied that the new store would give better rates. I now regret that decision since my effective rakeback as a high volume player seems to be reduced.

I don't see any reason to believe the "trust me the promotions will make up for the difference between the old and new" line since the only proffered examples so far only "make up the difference" for very low volume players, not former palladium elite level players. Also, since we were misled about the store rates in the new system, why would Party not also be misleading us in the exact same way about any promotions that supposedly make up the difference?

We are poker players- our entire game is based on rational skepticism and not believing what is represented if it looks like deception. Right now Party is like a player who bluffs far too often - they lose credibility because they are always over-representing their position. It might work a few times with newer players who haven't seen it before, but the longer you play with them the more obvious is becomes that they have nothing to back up their line. The only way to rebuild trust in the situation is to stop promising what you can't deliver and start showing down what you are representing.

There's a break. At least 5 min longer because of that (usually like 7 min) with starting stacks less than 1,5bb.