Party_Rep

This has been discussed for months now. The honest and recreational players are suffering from cheaters that you allow because of your half-measured HUD software tracking setup.

I was forced to cashout from partypoker last month because of the fear of converters/cheaters and moved to a fair poker site. I check this thread regularly to see if you have taken steps to fix this problem by re-instating HUDs at regular cash tables.

Now I see direct proof of players using converters. I will be telling everyone I know to cashout and avoid partypoker until you fix this problem.

I will come back when you become a fair poker site.

Probably not her department...

+1 Give Party about a year, then they will realize that they fu**ed up

Hi, the last 2 days Ive been unable to log into bwin. Its gets to the log in screen then freezes. This never happened to me previous to then. I have the latest java and adobe, Ive uninstalled and re-installed. Ive cleared cookies and temporary files. Basically Ive tried everything to no avail. I don't know why this is happening. I might add that all other sites are fine and I can play on them no problem. Support have asked me for a screenshot of problem which Ive sent them. Does anyone know what could be causing this? Thanks in advance

Reading a thread by someone who ran a bot for a few months. He makes a very interesting point in one of this posts that is relevant to Party

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...9&postcount=39

Stars is considered off-limits by all except the most experienced and technically savvy of botters. The site seems to be relatively proactive in bot detection. Bovada is considered to be the most bot-friendly and the easiest site for noobs to set up on. A large part of this is because bots are often detected by other players and in Bovada, that is almost impossible due to anonymous play.

This post was made before Party went for anonymous hand histories and just confirms what many have claimed.

This is with the relevant team for review and action


I have asked the tech team if there is any advise they can offer

+2, bye bye fair play, welcome bots, it was even more than segregation

I was playing MSNL/HSNL on Party as my primary site from 2005 until these recent changes in 2016. I raked well over $500k for Party. I was one of the few who would constantly start tables with anyone, greatly enhancing the poker ecosystem for Party.

I was forced to cash out my entire roll after the HUD changes last year because it is so inevitable that everyone would use a hand history convertor and scam everyone else who played by the rules and didn't. There's your evidence above.

Every single reg left on there like JETFIRE68 is using a hand history convertor and cheating. Party has lost all credibility. It is impossible for them to enforce the HUD ban, forcing everyone to either cheat as well or quit the site.

Colette - can you please sincerely provide this evidence to management and ask them to roll back the changes so that all players are on an even playing field? Party was going in the right direction for the year prior to the changes in Oct 2016 and getting consistently good feedback here from its players. It blows my mind why they made the change.

8gb is not high end, it is your pc

Fwiw I think the outing of players allegedly using banned tools itt is superb, long may it continue.

Has it lead to any investigations/bans of any sort though?

It seems to me that this thread seems quite useless, given that the subject of the widespread illegal usage of a known hud and the gazillion of bots roaming freely around have barely been addressed by anyone with authority...

Similar for me, except that I kept a tiny bit on the site and I've played a little bit there since the changes (maybe 10% as much as before) - mainly as I've been on Party for so long I've kept hoping that they would reverse the utterly stupid decision. Given that the changes seem to be there for the long term I'm going to withdraw the rest very soon.

My impression is that people are cheating, but in any case it's a crappy thought process to have whenever you play - it's gone from thinking that the odd player is prob a bot, to thinking that a large number of opponents are cheating and they have a clear advantage.

No, it's the party poker client.

8gb is plenty to run any apps, the app just has a serious memory leak.

I'm looking for advice in which anyone's found a way to minimise the memory leaks by changing client settings, not trolls telling me to upgrade my PC to use an App that was designed 15 years ago.

Pity that Party will only ban the ones stupid enough to upload proof of their cheating to public internet pages. The rest will be allowed to continue to cheat. That's what literally everyone's been saying since these stupid changes were brought in.

This topic has been discussed previously and as stated the ecology changes we implemented will not be "rolled back" or changed
The management are fully aware of the opinions of those on this thread and feedback is reviewed regularly

Kind regards,

Colette

That is so freaking stupid. Only people that are giving positive feedback are most likely the recs who have no clue you can still use a hud.

Again, I ask, what is the purpose of this thread if one of the most mind-boggling decision ever executed by Party will not be furthermore discussed over here?

Because Party is literally saying that you have to cheat to stay profitable in cash games or leave. The file converter is 100 euro per month now since the developer is monopolist, I think it will become cheaper with more competition in future if nothing has changed.

Colette,

I am surprise you are saying it wont change or be rolled back, may I ask you why? Why is it impossible of a rolled back?

I have been playing on party for a long time and I remember 2 specific situation that you guys made a bad change and then rolled it back

1) sneaky increase of the rake from 3$ to 5$ at all tables, after a week or so it got rolled back

2) segregation same thing, got rolled back.

What's the thing with the HUD that now its so important to remove them? It seem's pretty obvious it's not working at all, only programmer's that sell a converter can earn out of this situation, and probably low stakes player that wont pay 50-100$/month for the HUD. Most likely 25-50% of the player pool at midstakes are using one by now.... you have been working for Party for a while and im sure even if you can't say it publicly you agree 100% with player's that this situation make's no sense at all...

To be more clear yes it's the party poker client, yes the problem will occur when using a system with 8gb or less. The problem will not occur when using a system with 16gb+ . It's been an issue for more then 6 years now so obviously won't be fixed anytime soon. Up to you what to do about it

I had 8GB before but added another 8GB because it started lagging too much with party client+HM2+partycaption. Remember that partycaption increases resource use while it helps with many other things.

With 16gb memory, I haven't had many problems though I recommend rebooting your computer always before a long session on Party.

I had 2 pro friends playing on party that don't read 2p2. I asked them how they felt they could overcome 1 way HUD's, neither had been aware it was possible. They both told me they stopped playing at party after I told them.

What was supposed to be wrong with it? I dont get it

It seems to be removed. It showed the players names when the handhistories suppoused to be anon. Here is the sc http://image.prntscr.com/image/0daa5...5fefc5e034.png