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Reuters: Full Tilt Poker, Pokerstars and Absolute Poker charged with illegal gambling Reuters: Full Tilt Poker, Pokerstars and Absolute Poker charged with illegal gambling

04-15-2011 , 11:30 PM
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Originally Posted by thedoc08
Brobama does what he wants. I just don't understand how they could block access to it from countries where online gambling is legal. Last round of domain seizures was Department of Homeland Security and Immigrations and Customs Enforcement going after bootleg music, movies, and software domains.
Don't be blaming Obama, the law was passed by the Bushies and their buddies like Jack Abramoff who spread Casino money around Washington DC like it was Wampum to get this stuff put out. These A--holes passed a law UIGEA see here and are using it to screw with the On-line Poker world.

IF you are not already a member of the Poker Players Alliance join now

I am off to write to my Congressman. It wouldn't hurt to write to the Senator (especially Republicans and the President and to the USA for the Southern District of NY (US Attorney for the Southern District of NY Preet Bharara, 1 Saint Andrews Plaza NY NY 10007 or call him up on Monday and let him know how you really feel. (212) 637-2200)
press release from the US Attorney's Office

Last edited by ACShark425; 04-15-2011 at 11:44 PM. Reason: fix link to US Atty's Press Release
04-15-2011 , 11:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Wardrums
Not sure if this was said already, but i have tried to cashout from several different international IP addresses and still denied. Looks like they are using your ID location/address to freeze your account.

FU US corrupt government!
While i agree they are corrupt, and as anoyne who followed my bbv fraud thread knows im not exactly a goodie goodie... but as far as i can see this was a FRAUD and CRIME committed by "reputable" sites propped up by tv pros.

Ive yet to see any "land of the free u cant play poker online" parts to this case as opposed to "stop widespread money laundering and bank fraud by shady offshore shells".
04-15-2011 , 11:30 PM
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Originally Posted by creator8
if pokerstars.eu is official cant we use a european bank account to deposit and withdrawal euros instead of dollars. why cant a US player use a european bank and play on a european poker site...(pokerstars.eu) hint hint

since you would be playing on a site and in a currency where poker is legal....

why not mask your ip to block yourself from FBI surveillance

food for thought
Wow you genius you. No one's ever thought of that. How did you get so smart? Do you take smart pills?
04-15-2011 , 11:30 PM
Cashouts on AP appear to be working as normal. I requested one on Wed, and in the last hour it has changed from the "requested" status to "authorized" which means it has underwent and completed the security review and whatever else they do and is prepped to go out tomorrow usually
04-15-2011 , 11:30 PM
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Originally Posted by diskoteque
I can't picture the FBI tracking people down who withdraw small amounts. If you have $500,000, maybe it'll raise an eyebrow.

And isn't it legal for US citizens to play online? I'm not sure what they'd get us on?
Yea, it's just that the language they had in their shut-down page today was pretty interesting. "Anyone taking part in an illegal gambling operation is committing a federal crime."

I know that's vague, and I agree that small stakes players like myself aren't likely on their radar.... especially in California. But, it still gives me pause as far as what the best course of action is. (Withdraw or not withdraw.)
04-15-2011 , 11:30 PM
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Originally Posted by chillskill
So the snap withdrawals from non-US were possibly a little to hasty?
04-15-2011 , 11:30 PM
If Americans end up being disallowed entering mtt's this 7.5M FTOPS ME is sure gonna be juicy.
04-15-2011 , 11:30 PM
To the guy that posted that his whole roll in the world was deposited with a poker site I have to ask, Isidur are you crazy?

p.s.-- Buy some gold. The government can't sieze it with the push of a button and can't magically print more of it so it retains value as a store of wealth.
04-15-2011 , 11:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Shelldonahue
Cancel it. The payment processors can easily be shut down and your money will be lost in cyber space. It will be safer to keep it on PStars.
It sounds like a good idea to cancel it and keep it on the site. However the govt is being completely ******ed and what if the sites block access for all of us US players?
04-15-2011 , 11:32 PM
this sucks.
04-15-2011 , 11:32 PM
lots of americans still at FTP
04-15-2011 , 11:32 PM
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Originally Posted by OMG_LadyGaga
It sounds like a good idea to cancel it and keep it on the site. However the govt is being completely ******ed and what if the sites block access for all of us US players?
Is it even possible to cancel bank transfers after they have been approved by FT? I did it earlier this afternoon and don't see an option to cancel even if I wanted to.
04-15-2011 , 11:33 PM
So, by accepting advertising from the poker sites didn't two plus two promote online gambling for years? ESPN? Where does it end?
04-15-2011 , 11:34 PM
Deja Vu Neteller
04-15-2011 , 11:34 PM
What's the right play for Canadians on the CEREUS network? The payment processors like Instadebit and Moneybookers are non US to my knowledge so would those processors be seized as well? This risk compared to getting all of the funds on the site seized and then being left with nothing. Not sure what to do here.
04-15-2011 , 11:35 PM
Does anyone else think it weird that this all happened on April 15th? Most people have their 2010 income taxes filed by now and now the US government goes after these online poker sites. To maybe verify what we reported in 2010 is actually correct?
04-15-2011 , 11:35 PM
on a semi related note, buying gold now is just ******ed at current prices
04-15-2011 , 11:35 PM
FYI guys.. I have not read (and I've been refreshing all day) about anyone not able to play on FTP.. Just that the domain was blocked, but I never saw that..

As far as I know, ftp games are running normal for americans. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.
04-15-2011 , 11:35 PM
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Originally Posted by opal8
If Americans end up being disallowed entering mtt's this 7.5M FTOPS ME is sure gonna be juicy.

Sounds good, but I'm quite sure you will see a lot of gurantees restructured over the next couple weeks.
04-15-2011 , 11:35 PM
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Originally Posted by doomswitch3000
Statement from Full Tilt Poker Regarding Recent Check Withdrawal Issues



In light of recent events involving the freezing of certain accounts, Full Tilt Poker would like to assure all players that their funds remain safe and secure. Processing of both deposit and withdrawal requests is proceeding as normal and is still available to all of our players.
All players who were affected by the current situation have had their funds returned to their accounts and all new withdrawal requests are processing normally. We assure all players on Full Tilt Poker that your online playing experience will not change and that you will be able to both deposit and withdraw funds as needed. Your money remains safe, secure and accessible at all times.
Full Tilt Poker remains committed to the protection of our players’ security and legal rights, and will continue to provide the best and safest online poker room available worldwide.
where can i find a link to this? Is this legit?
04-15-2011 , 11:35 PM
I don't understand why so many are panicking about their money on the site. Withdrawing is more shady cause it maybe going through one of the payment processors that were 'frozen' by the US Gov't according to the statements.

I find it highly unlikely that the US can take any money off your personal account. The site is liable to keep your money safe. Once it's withdrawn, it's off their plate and on some foreign bank which is being seized by the US...
04-15-2011 , 11:35 PM
Has anyone had any communication with FTP? Withdrawal option still says 'unable to get a secure connection'.

I'd like to roll the dice and get my funds out via wire as soon as possible rather than be hung up for who knows how long (if it isn't already too late).

I was able to successfully request a wire from PS.. lets see if it comes through.
04-15-2011 , 11:35 PM
Headed to vegas this week. Think the Aria will start a 10-25cent game for all us micro players lol
04-15-2011 , 11:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Atarirob
A video update from a grindhouse in the west coast.

http://youtu.be/gI3nb9x5VhY
follow up video that's appropriate

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0buIN...eature=related
04-15-2011 , 11:36 PM
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Originally Posted by diskoteque
Is it even possible to cancel bank transfers after they have been approved by FT? I did it earlier this afternoon and don't see an option to cancel even if I wanted to.
yes it is. I withdrew 3.5k from UB, 900 from FTP, and 1250 from stars via bank transfer and they all have an option to cancel the transaction as it is "pending" approval

      
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