our country is a ****ing joke

the govt seized their money. i dont get why people are even asking if its only going to affect US players. if youre outside the US you can still play but youre basically playing for play chips because tilt and stars dont have any money to give you if u cash out

Well by coincidence I cashed out some on FTP last night, and received the usual email

This is an automated message sent from Full Tilt Poker.

Your Player ID: pokerbrute
Date and Time: 2011-04-14 18:47:54
Transfer Number: xxxxxxxx
Amount: $xxx.xx (USD)

Status: PROCESSING

Your withdrawal request has been received. Processing of your
withdrawal request may take between 24-48 hours.

For further assistance, please visit our website at:
http://www.fulltiltpoker.com/withdrawal
or contact cashier@fulltiltpoker.com.

Thank you for playing at Full Tilt Poker

then today after shiz hit the fan

This is an automated message sent from Full Tilt Poker.

Your Player ID: pokerbrute
Date and Time: 2011-04-15 17:28:53
Transfer Number: xxxxxxxx
Payment Method: Bank Transfer
Amount: $xxx.xx (USD)

Status: DECLINED

Your withdrawal request has been declined. Please review your
personal account information to ensure that it is the same as the
information stored with your payment processor. You may correct
any of your personal information and try again. If you are still
unsuccessful, you may wish to try one of the other available
withdrawal methods.

For further assistance in withdrawing funds from your account,
please visit our website at:
http://www.fulltiltpoker.com/withdrawal
or contact cashier@fulltiltpoker.com.


Looks like withdrawal is futile for the time being.

Wow. My stomach is in knots. Not so much for me, I just have a few hundred in recreational $$ on PS & FT, but for those I've come to know and read about here on 2+2 who grind day after day for their rent and food, who have helped me with advice (strategy, bankroll or other). Who have given me many laughs and many interesting life stories.

This is people's livelihoods here. Talk about the biggest KITN from the US govt... I'm holding out hope for you all that this can be resolved and QUICKLY in our favor.

Bank transfers are not working on FTP. Tried one early, got declined an hour ago.

nevermind, i didnt realize i was on a proxy ip address

No, they wouldn't seize our funds ... but how long until we see it?

I just found out about this right now -- I have 7k in my account and I need it badly.

sidebet on whether the funds will be available before the season ends

"What?The land of the free?Whoever told you that is your enemy!"

I don't know about poker but I'm pretty sure my DOJ beats your full house.

Even those in the land of the free are expected to play by the rules.

Money Laundering....and tax evasion are two thing that will surely get the fbis interest.

gg poker and gg 2+2.

I'm in the UK but withdrew 2/3rds of my BR via direct bank transfer, transfer went through in an hour.

Now I'm wondering if the tourneys tonight will have huge overlays...

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Im in debt to my bank now; everyone check your ****. the checks i deposited are gone

is there any chance that FTP decides to try and ride this out and doesnt lock out US players as stars did.

or are we just waiting for the hammer to drop there too

read the reports
pstars and FTP were cleaning the money via transactions with fake businesses (selling golf balls, jewelery etc.)

Please understand that our transfer tool is only meant to help players fund
their accounts when they are unable to deposit with deposit options
currently available to them. All funds added to accounts via transfer must
be used solely to play at our tables.

We are restricted by our license agreement in the Isle of Man and this
prevents us from being able to offer a real money transfer service for the
purpose of cashing out or any other purpose that is not enabling customers
to play at the tables.

Below you will find our terms and conditions, specifically those that refer
to transfers, you may read our complete terms and conditions at the
following link as well:

http://www.pokerstars.com/poker/room/tos/

5.3 REAL MONEY TRANSFERS. The PokerStars real money transfer facility is
accessed via the "PokerStars Lobby" (under the heading "requests" and then
"transfer funds"). Users must enter the amount to transfer and the player ID
of the intended recipient. Users are reminded that it is their
responsibility to ensure they know who the other Users are before entering
into these arrangements. Limits on transfers will be set by PokerStars per User.

As part of PokerStars' licensing agreement and in compliance with anti money
laundering legislation, Users need to be aware they may be required to
produce personal documentation (such as Government issued ID, bank
statements and utility bills) upon request in order for their transfer to be
processed. This allows PokerStars to help protect the Users and prevent
PokerStars being used as a vehicle for money laundering or fraud.

i just tried.. i could not sit down and play... what are you talking about?

so everywhere except US can cashout rite?

I'm in for an update whether anybody here has successfully cashed a check from FTP today?

i requested a check for $600.00 approved and processed early this morning and i hope it works.

Yes, is this the case?

you'd think the sites would've issued statements

From Uglyowl in the Poker Legislation Fourm:

https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&p...thkey=CJ6Jmu0C

https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&p...thkey=CLPTi4QF