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Reuters: Full Tilt Poker, Pokerstars and Absolute Poker charged with illegal gambling Reuters: Full Tilt Poker, Pokerstars and Absolute Poker charged with illegal gambling

04-16-2011 , 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by LOLNHDONKWP
currently 157,645 players on stars, normally ~200K

Doesn't seem like too big a deal.
everyone is still allowed to log in.. take a look at the # of tables instead
04-16-2011 , 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by LOLNHDONKWP
How the f can Andrew Feldman say he expects the named sites be down "worldwide" within 48 hours?

I mean, pokerstars has its headquarters in the Isle of Man.

WTF?
He was citing someone else;

ESPN_Poker Andrew Feldman
According to @GamblingComp, all the indicted sites, around the world, will be down within 48 hours. #gg
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04-16-2011 , 11:20 AM
some things i would like to understand:

can a american citizen, play poker outside the usa, i.e. with a non-usa isp?

and can a non us-citizen (european for example) play with an america isp (like in the states while travelling)?
04-16-2011 , 11:21 AM




oh and fml
04-16-2011 , 11:21 AM
Stars and FTP are certainly not operating at a loss with just non US players
04-16-2011 , 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by ~red0nkulous
If the US gov decides to regulate play on online sites, would they tax the money going in or coming out? Or both

Guess I'll be playing live a lot more now, probably better off.
I'm sure they would tax the rake, not deposits and withdrawals
04-16-2011 , 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Pollce State




oh and fml
LOLz
04-16-2011 , 11:22 AM
What's the best euro site for volume in PLO HUSNGs anyone know?
04-16-2011 , 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by JimmyC2956
I'm sure they would tax the rake, not deposits and withdrawals
They arent going to tax them, they are getting rid of them so they can have ALL the profits, just not a tax on the profits.
04-16-2011 , 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by ProkkeR
everyone is still allowed to log in.. take a look at the # of tables instead
I think I can recall from the PokerCast that PokerStars Steve mentioned that the number of players shown on the lobby is not how many people are logged in, but seated at tables.

And if someone is seated more than 1 once it counts more than once on the count.. Maybe I am wrong.
04-16-2011 , 11:24 AM
Will week 2 of "Full Tilt Poker"'s PLO cash game be shown next week I wonder?
04-16-2011 , 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by AUGUY55
If it were me. I would withdrawal NOW!!! It could be any day where Bodog is shut down to americans too.
I would withdraw most of it and leave a bit on to play. Move down a stake or play with a short roll....better to do that and salvage most of your money in case **** hits the fan. It's not like I have a lot of withdrawal options there so if one or a few go down we're ****ed.
04-16-2011 , 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by crdjeep
All these people that say there cashout's worked, do they really think banks are going to cash your checks?

There's plenty more methods of cashing out. My money went straight to my netteller account.
04-16-2011 , 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Quasar30
I get this email when trying to cash out

"
Deposit and Cashout Transactions are currently disabled in your account due to the result of a routine security investigation.

We do not mean to imply any wrongdoing, however, please understand that we have to make security checks routinely to make sure that PokerStars remains a safe and secure environment for its players.

For information on how to clear your account, please email "PokerStars Security" <security@pokerstars.com>."
I am getting this same security investigation message simply because I transferred $100 to a friend at one point. Two of my other friends now have the same security message issue. I wonder if its a massive exercise in stalling on Star's part since they just do not have the money readily available. This sucks. How many others are getting this security freeze when trying to cash out?
04-16-2011 , 11:24 AM
How do I find QuadJacks Live stream on the iphone ustream app?
04-16-2011 , 11:26 AM
The Future for Online Poker Players...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XjP3nSE2r0

...since friday.
04-16-2011 , 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by bbfg
Stars/FTP will not close down because they are operating at a loss temporary because of this mess lol u mad?
Stars/FTP will only close down if it somehow gets seized or it goes bankrupt.
of course, my statements are pure speculation. Even with the information we have, we can't say how much all this will cost. Nor can we say how much impact this will have on PS/FTP business outside US. What happens if 50% of the money will be cashed out? How much money does PS/FTP hold at any given time? Will they be able to pay these out?

We only know one thing for certain, no more online poker for the US players for an unspecified time.
04-16-2011 , 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Clovis8
He was citing someone else;

ESPN_Poker Andrew Feldman
According to @GamblingComp, all the indicted sites, around the world, will be down within 48 hours. #gg
1 hour ago Favorite Retweet Reply
Can someone please confirm that what was meant with this had nothing to do with the DNS updating slowly for some ISPs, still making the .coms accesable in some parts of the world? I really think that is what they were talking about.

Of course, FTP now has .co.uk and Stars has .eu, so they shouldn't go down.
04-16-2011 , 11:27 AM
Will the eventually try come after the smaller US friendly networks like merge/cake or whatever?
04-16-2011 , 11:27 AM
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The U.S. Department of Justice released a press release on the indictment, and in it, 11 defendants are named: Isai Scheinberg, Raymond Bitar, Scott Tom, Brent Beckley, Nelson Burtnick, Paul Tate, Ryan Lang, Bradley Franzen, Ira Rubin, Chad Elie, and John Campos.

Read more: http://www.pokernews.com/news/2011/0...cted-10218.htm
Seems Howard has wormed his way out of this one again.
04-16-2011 , 11:27 AM
Is something wrong if I cashed out[ftp], did not receive any confirmation email and have my withdrawal noted in the past transactions not the pending one??
04-16-2011 , 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by VinceS
This is hilarious

masses of anti-social teengers who have never experienced a day of work in their life are now going to be forced to look for jobs. though they obviously won't be able find one since the have the communication skills of a monkey

haha
I'm not sure why you think it's funny.
You're obviously a bitter fish who's not smart enough to break even and hates those who outsmart him on every level of poker play.

But I'll tell you what...Anyone who's making a living playing this game is going to be out of this dumpster of a country by next week and going to keep making 10 times more than you'll ever make in your life while travelling at the same time.

Those who were losing players just got saved a lot of money, including you.
These guys were going to have to get a job eventually anyway.

The rest? We'll be fine, thank you very much.

Have fun working your 9 to 5 till you drop dead (in a lot of pain) and going home to your fat ugly wife you hate and ******ed kids you wish you never had, lol.
04-16-2011 , 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by fo0od
of course, my statements are pure speculation. Even with the information we have, we can't say how much all this will cost. Nor can we say how much impact this will have on PS/FTP business outside US. What happens if 50% of the money will be cashed out? How much money does PS/FTP hold at any given time? Will they be able to pay these out?

We only know one thing for certain, no more online poker for the US players for an unspecified time.
Yes, the most major question imo is how well prepared are FTP and Stars for this? I think they both suspected a bank run-esque scenario was very plausible to happen at some point, and were well prepared. But that is pure speculation obv.
04-16-2011 , 11:28 AM
O CANADA
04-16-2011 , 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by LOLNHDONKWP
Will week 2 of "Full Tilt Poker"'s PLO cash game be shown next week I wonder?
as we speak Lederer, Ferguson, Ivey, Phil Gordon, Harman etc are on their way to take up residence in Monaco with Gus and Patrik Antonius

      
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