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04-22-2011 , 01:54 PM
I've e-mailed both FT and Stars about relocating outside the country. I haven't heard a peep. Does anyone have an idea when they might allow US players to change their addresses?
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04-22-2011 , 01:57 PM
Can't comment on FTP, don't play there. Here's what Stars had to say to me:


Thank you for your email.

In the event that you are no longer living in the United States, and can prove it, you are free to play on our site from your new residence. However, to do so, you will be required to submit proof that you are actually resident in another location to have your privileges reinstated. You will be able to keep your VIP Status, as well as your yearly VPP total (as of April 15, 2011).

Acceptable proof consists of copies of photo identification as well as a recent utility bill showing your new physical address. Just an address, without actual proof of residency, will not be sufficient.

Once you have moved, and have the necessary documents to prove your new residency, please email the documents to verification@pokerstars.com and we will assist you further.

Warm regards,

Katja
PokerStars Support Team
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04-22-2011 , 02:03 PM
Could US players apply for asylum in another country, siting the US government prohibiting the ability to earn an income from their chosen vocation. Restriction of trade or the like.

I know it reads a bit extreme at first, but imagine the test case for it.

It was supposed to be a light-hearted jab at our colonial cousins from across 'The Pond', but the more I think about it....................

If any US players take offence, then I'm sorry..no offence is meant..We want you back.
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04-22-2011 , 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by canbonly1
Tommy,

I'm in same boat as you. I Tweeted what I thought about this country and my wife was none too please. I'm considering moving us to my grandmother's vacant condo in Miami and commuting weekly to Bahamas. We have a 20 month old so Montessori schools are a priority for us. I want someplace safe and cheap.

Maybe we can put our heads together or join forces? I dunno, I've sent similar messages to Stars and it seems they really can't offer much guidance.

canbonly1

ps. I will skype you later, k?
Sounds good bro -- can't PM you, since you have 4 post. I'll search you out on skype..

I have been looking in the craiglists room/shared in the carribean (not much there but a couple of maybe's)...

PS - I have an 19 month old daugther so I know exactly what you mean. I have to leave my family in order to make a living, this is like some sick dream... Only in America
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04-23-2011 , 02:43 AM
Tommy,

I am currently in San Jose Costa Rica setting up a grind house. Will have more details Monday, but an working on streamlining the banking process and already have a house.

Price will be all inclusive per month(rent food maid cook etc.) , and will be very affordable.

Feel free to contact me and anyone else interested as well @ octosean555@gmail.com

Or post here, whatever works, we can chat on skype and I can shoot you some details.

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Originally Posted by Tommy_Ho
Sounds good bro -- can't PM you, since you have 4 post. I'll search you out on skype..

I have been looking in the craiglists room/shared in the carribean (not much there but a couple of maybe's)...

PS - I have an 19 month old daugther so I know exactly what you mean. I have to leave my family in order to make a living, this is like some sick dream... Only in America
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04-23-2011 , 04:15 AM
People who currently already live outside from the US are having trouble to update their address:
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28...dence-1020849/
So I guess for US citizens who are thinking to move, that's gonna take a while.
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04-23-2011 , 04:23 AM
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Originally Posted by OctoSean
Tommy,

I am currently in San Jose Costa Rica setting up a grind house. Will have more details Monday, but an working on streamlining the banking process and already have a house.

Price will be all inclusive per month(rent food maid cook etc.) , and will be very affordable.

Feel free to contact me and anyone else interested as well @ octosean555@gmail.com

Or post here, whatever works, we can chat on skype and I can shoot you some details.
Have you been there long? How is the internet? How often do you get kicked off?
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04-23-2011 , 05:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Sly Caveat
Have you been there long? How is the internet? How often do you get kicked off?
I arrived here last Tuesday night after making a very quick decision in light of Black Friday. Was planning on coming here anyway later this year, was just forced to do it faster by DOJ. Already have a house.

Not my first time here tho, have spent quite a bit of time here and have many Tico friends.

RE: Internet, your not gonna get the blazing superfast speeds you get in the states but the internet is good and capable of streaming videos etc. and I am going to get the super baller package and get it from 2 companies for redundancy. Right now I am on the $15 per mo plan that came with the house and it is good for one person grinding like 8 tables but after that it chokes up.

Also, most of Costa Rica (esp Central Valley) has 3g and an aircard is available with unlimited and it is pretty affordable so it's an additional layer of internet and if you happen to be on the go.

In general, the technical infrastructure is good in Costa Rica which is one of the reasons it is so high on the list of countries to come to for grinding and in general any kind of internet based business.
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04-23-2011 , 05:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Steven R
An American citizen still has to pay Federal income tax no matter where in the world they live or earn that money. Let's say our plucky hypothetical poker-playing lad moves to Eastoutbackstan to play e-poker. If he doesn't pay any taxes when he comes home for Christmas or for a wedding or to bury grannie he can still get picked up at the airport for income tax evasion.
imo its just a bs that we have to pay tax on something the gov banned.
we paid tax until today and now the gov took our job saying poker is illegal. we should ask our tax back.
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04-23-2011 , 06:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Tommy_Ho
LOL - that was my 1st choice but seems the crime and finding a place to live is tough. Housing prices seem very excessive. Also, I cannot relocate my family due to my kids age, wifes job etc.

So I have to find a place pretty cheap and fly home every 3 weeks or so.

Just such BS for an american to have to jump through all these hoops to play online poker. First time I am ashamed to call myself an americian.
Online gambling is illegal in the Bahamas, and yes, they consider poker gambling.
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04-23-2011 , 06:29 AM
What about playing with a p r o x y? Couldn't someone DL the new software through a pro.xy and play from their home? Or is that just plain stupid?
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04-23-2011 , 07:42 AM
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Originally Posted by bruinsrule
What about playing with a p r o x y? Couldn't someone DL the new software through a pro.xy and play from their home? Or is that just plain stupid?
You guessed it right in your very first post.

Welcome aboard.
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04-23-2011 , 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by bruinsrule
What about playing with a p r o x y? Couldn't someone DL the new software through a pro.xy and play from their home? Or is that just plain stupid?
vpn connection with dedicated ip is the best solution.
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04-23-2011 , 09:19 AM
Im not sure about their laws but can I suggest NZ. Time zone is good other than its a day ahead. your sunday grind is monday morning first thing.

so you get your weekends. Im in Aus, but NZ has good internet, is first world, speaks english, is a modern society for the most part, has some great tourist destinations, some minor problems with earth moving in certain parts but you could stay away from them.

I presume that they probably have legislation which bans online gambling like Aus, but never enforce it. but dont know.

the other thing is they generally are looking for people to move there. if you have a degree in something useful then you might find there is a preference list for people with that sort of degree etc.

Just a thought.

cheers
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04-23-2011 , 09:28 AM
I would not move to a country based on the tournament schedule, it is possibly subject to change... who knows
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04-23-2011 , 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by OctoSean
Tommy,

I am currently in San Jose Costa Rica setting up a grind house. Will have more details Monday, but an working on streamlining the banking process and already have a house.

Price will be all inclusive per month(rent food maid cook etc.) , and will be very affordable.

Feel free to contact me and anyone else interested as well @ octosean555@gmail.com

Or post here, whatever works, we can chat on skype and I can shoot you some details.
Sent you an email.... Thanks for the help
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04-23-2011 , 10:21 AM
canada.
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04-23-2011 , 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Springy
Could US players apply for asylum in another country, siting the US government prohibiting the ability to earn an income from their chosen vocation. Restriction of trade or the like.
Yes, but you must renounce your U.S. citizenship. The hard part is that you have to convince the foreign government to accept you as a citizen, otherwise you will become stateless.
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04-23-2011 , 11:15 AM
You're all crazy for considering moving to all these other pseudo-fascist nations where people don't live like people anymore.

Don't leave the USA to go to England, Canada, or Australia. The differences between these countries are insignificant and superficial. They're all basically the same place.

Use this opportunity to live somewhere different. Go somewhere where life really happens. Go somewhere were people talk to their neighbors and live simple happy lives.

Basically go anywhere "3rd world".
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04-23-2011 , 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by ka1z0ku
imo its just a bs that we have to pay tax on something the gov banned.
we paid tax until today and now the gov took our job saying poker is illegal. we should ask our tax back.
As somebody said in another thread here, even if you were a murderer for hire, you'd still have to pay taxes.
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04-23-2011 , 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by olinolin
You're all crazy for considering moving to all these other pseudo-fascist nations where people don't live like people anymore.

Don't leave the USA to go to England, Canada, or Australia. The differences between these countries are insignificant and superficial. They're all basically the same place.

Use this opportunity to live somewhere different. Go somewhere where life really happens. Go somewhere were people talk to their neighbors and live simple happy lives.



Basically go anywhere "3rd world".


olinolin:
wow, this is might be the most inaccurate post i ever read, or maybe i just misunderstood it.
i have lived in, legally ( with permanent residence, or landed immigrant status ) and been domiciled ( which is quite different ) in all three countries u mentioned, and i can assure u they are quite different, and all were great to live in for different reasons, it took awhile to get used to british humor, but after that, it was game on. none were even close to fascist by any definition i know of.
i even made sure we were domiciled in canada when my son was born. i didn't foresee this evolved police state, in the usa, just thinking of viet nam, and how great it is to have options and dual citizenship.

what do u mean by 3rd world?
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04-23-2011 , 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Jeff W
Yes, but you must renounce your U.S. citizenship. The hard part is that you have to convince the foreign government to accept you as a citizen, otherwise you will become stateless.
Yeah I would never consider renouncing my citizenship. Still many benefits to being an American, playing online poker just happens to not be one of them
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04-23-2011 , 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by odiggity
yea im an american who did this. now that i have my irish passport, im thinking of moving there. so if anyone is looking for a roommate or has any info that would be helpful id appreciate it. thx
I can help you out if you really want to move to ireland and finding a place to live. PM me.
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04-23-2011 , 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Steven R
Let's consider the realities of moving to another country. Let's even assume you get a visa lined up.

Do you speak the local language(s)?
How about where you will live? House, apartment, hotel, other? How do you know where a good area of town is?
What about crime stats? Are you likely to get robbed and killed walking down to the store to get a gallon of milk?
How about bribes to local officials or criminals? Do you know whose palms to grease?
What about medical care?
How about other local laws? Religious laws especially, but taxes and criminal laws are considerations. Get pinched and you might not be able to count on a fair trial.
What about the telecommunications infrastructure? Is the internet reliable enough for you to use at will? How about electricity?
What about social, religious, or ethnic strife or a real concern about war?
Weather and climate, earthquakes, volcanos, etc or plagues or other illness outbreaks are a conern as is clean water for much of the world.

Granted the first world is less likely to have some problems, but no place is immune to all of these concerns. Have we thought about these or are we just going to ignore them and hop a plane to play poker?
Just wow... I am guessing you have never been out of the country? Have you been out of your state?
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04-23-2011 , 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Gim_Mick
Just wow... I am guessing you have never been out of the country? Have you been out of your state?
That is funny
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