- You got offended that I plainly stated Mike Postle's appearance without sarcasm or criticism

- You insinuated that I thought he should change his look simply because his look was bad (and not because he's infamously recognizable and back out in public)

- Then you finished it off by claiming I feel that he should dress like a stereotypical
European (kinda hypocritical to feign offense of something saying how someone dresses only to sh*t on another way of dressing, right??????)

The reason I triggered you is because you dress like Postle, I assume, as you took offense for no real reason and scolded me for not simply saying that he dressed "normal" (solipsism.......)

Seems like you're the one who has numerous levels of backpedaling and self-discovery to do.

Children, enough. Any more bickering and its temp bans.

Sure but if you are a TD stealing money from your customers but letting your accomplish (Postle) see their hole cards in real times, then you want your accomplish to fly under the radar. And this is why, I say, that JFKs massive promotion of Postle is actually an argument AGAINST JFK being involved in the alleged cheating.

When I read this, I hear it spoken in the voice of Sean Connery.

Would Sean Connery say accomplish when he means accomplice?

Yesh, in fact, he would shay that.

Look at how people still defend him. This shows your argument he wouldn't do it because the cost was too high isn't a factual argument. And remember from the pov of the casino not promoting him when he is running so well is a huge red flag. Why do you think the casino does this if not for publicity.

Wait Postle wasn't universally banned from all casinos ?

"people"

lol he wasn't even banned from stones

He hasn't been banned from any as far as I'm aware. He wouldn't be welcome in most places if recognised though I imagine!

Exactly. Casinos dont send letters out to people, who dont come there, to tell them, they are not welcome. And at the time Postle was more or less only playing at Stones. However should he turn up in a live game anywhere in the world, it could quickly get pretty awkward for him, when someone at the table brings up the topic "hey are you not that guy from Stones Gambling Hall?" If he even made it that far. And this is likely why, Postle has chosen to "voluntarily" withdraw from live poker. But maybe he still play online

What's the 2022 version of "hold my beer?"

https://slate.com/culture/2022/09/ch...nal-beads.html

Neimen actually did a YT video explaining his play

What should have happened at Stones after cell phones were banned at the table.

Remember earlier in this thread when we talked about how hard it is to explain the nuances of Postle's alleged cheating to lay people? I AM one of those people when it comes to chess. How plausible/credible was his explanation? I've watched various videos analyzing his play, and all of it might as well be in Punjabi when it comes to my comprehending any of it. On top of that, I honestly don't know which names are the trustworthy ones, and which are posers or outright whack jobs of the chess world.

In fact, compare that to the Postle allegations. We at 2+2 do know who is who in the poker world, obv. One of the most telling parts was that 100 percent of elite players believed that Postle was cheating. And all of the people who defended Postle as innocent were people who didn't play the game at a high level. It was one helluva split, and it stood as another reason why I wanted the Stones Live cheating to have its day in court – I wanted to see who would serve as an expert witness on Postle's behalf.

One thing I have learned while following this Niemann story: the chess community has a dearth of content creators who are both articulate and remotely skilled with video production. Most of them look like a boomer on a Zoom feed with crappy sound and/or lighting. Lots of mush-mouthed mumblers, too, while the more outgoing types are like Negreanu – loquacious to the point of sounding like the know-it-all drunk at a sports bar. Is there a chess equivalent of, say, Bart Hanson?


Haha I've seen that clip a LOT during my YouTube travels. If Postle was using a bone-conduction cap, this solution certainly would have spotted it. As for the cell phone ban, didn't that happen after Veronica blew the whistle?

Anyway, sorry for the derail into chess – the "anal beads" part of the Niemann allegations brought me back to the Postle saga.

When the Niemann stuff broke, I thought of this thread first. With no smoking gun in either case, here we have multiple kinds of evidence - suspicious behavior, unusual play, some statistical evidence (which could be much better if the hands were in a computer digestible format), and a plausible means for the cheating to be accomplished.

With Niemann we have none of this. Just an admission of prior cheating in no-stakes online games, and an insinuation by chess.com, without evidence, that there was more online cheating than he was admitting.

If the anal beads or something like it were real, there would likely be an unexplained metal or RF detection, and that would raise flags. And the possibility of something like anal beads is real. Cheating at blackjack and roulette using hidden wearable computers has been a thing for decades.

But the most respected statistical cheating detection guy in chess detected no over the board cheating by Hans after analyzing hundreds of games.

Yea im a lay person when it comes to chess as well but people in the comments seemed to buy his argument

NVM

forgot you only put what comes after =

Also i cant imagine someone shoving something up their ass just to cheat at chess or poker

The cheating accusations make no sense. It’s all accusation and no evidence. Seems like Magnus is just salty. Plus he is looking for any excuse not to play chess.

The chess thing should have its own thread tbh

Maybe for them cheating presents only a collateral benefit to an action they would otherwise do anyway ?

Gotta give a bump to the real cheater during all this nonsense. CTO was a true art form. I still can't believe he got away with it for so long.