I respectfully disagree...


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If it isn't cheating then what is it?

Random degen would fit the desired profile for cheating accounts & highstakesdb wasn't up to date on their PLO tracking at the time. I believe that's how Fast_Freddie started out. I think slaktarn won significantly more than what was reported & didn't lose everything. If everyone is so confident in sweden that no HS players who've gone public have been left virtually untouched by the Bandidos & Swedish IRS then why would Peter tell people who he was online @ the EPT after developing such a fishy image online (he knew people considered him a fish, just like Mohammed). Seems that would make him a prime target since if he wasn't involved with them previously, he was certainly on their radar & would've been majorly +EV to recruit.

can someone provide some brief cliffs for me please, dont have time to read 64 pages

+1

Just so I understand, would you have to run that file in order to be infected, simply download it or would it run just by clicking on a website link?

Also, if you had a firewall, wouldn't you be able to check your traffic?

So, it seems Bad_gateway has been referenced in cheating accusations go back from at least 2008

http://www.pokertableratings.com/ful...ch/BAD_GATEWAY




from http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/19...ng-ftp-773642/
Scumbags need to be taken down and punished severely.

Oh, and this thread was starting in 2009, the OP was freaking out saying Bad_gateway had hacked his laptop and was controlling his computer and cheated him.
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28...2009-a-423231/

Kindve depressing how many suspicious s/n's I've played against. Add Alladin (sp?) to the list. 100% scammed me out of ~200k.

remembered this from 2009 and searched it up. thought it might be worth posting.

from post 1185

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/19...l#post10199106

jcmoussa
how the **** does regista have 73k on a 25/50 6 max table?

Gary Stevenson
he's better than you?

Ansky
regista8 is one of those guys i have played with a ton, but for some reason if asked i have no idea how to answer how he plays.

gordo16
wow yeah, I completely agree... he is definitely one of like 3 people that I have played with who this is true of.

thaaj
mos def. Most puzzling guy i've ever played and he's been around a while.

(>^_^)>
hes been around since back on the party 5/10 days, i always thought he mustve been a big loser back then but databases showed he was a huge winner at party 5/10 10/20 so who the hell knows

celticslegend
I feel the same way and have absolutely no factual evidence whatsoever to back this up, but I would be surprised if multiple (and by multiple I mean more than 2) people didn't play on the account.

FoxwoodsFiend
i've always felt the same way. i have a good read on regista, he pretty consistently plays a certain way and then every once in a while he'll just completely switch it up and do things he would n ever normally do

MatthewRyan
isnt that the mark of any good hs player?

Kirbynator
he's not great or anything afaik

FoxwoodsFiend
when the default is poor and the deviations aren't improvements, not so much

aejones
I think regista8 is one of those people who games form around, and then the people who come to play the game because they think it's this amazing game with regista8 in it wind up being the donks.

AceCR9
in my experience this sums up registra(as far as NL)- tight pre flop with random terribad plays mixed in.

I vividly remember bad gateway and Alladin playing the exact same way. That is equally terrible and unorthodox, but owning me simultaneously.

I dont remember HSDB's tracking being very off that that time, I think his winnings were pretty well tracked. And looking at his graph now he won about 2 million (including the HU tourney he won) before having a -1 million meltdown and then slowly grinding down to 400k in winnings. I'm not an expert on poker cheaters but this just doesnt fit a cheater account to me. Just a random having a nosebleed heater before donking it all off again. It happened allot back then.

Unless the cheater was a high level thinker. Cheat, win a ton of money, give some back as to not make it obvious knowing you can run it up again whenever you want.

unlucky man, is it possible you still have the hand histories for those sessions?

I really think Pokerstars needs to investigate the account information/details/addresses, names etc of the following accounts, paymenot, bad_gateway, alladin, regista8 etc

I know for a fact HSDB was pretty far off at the time in PLO, not so much NLHE. I know this bc I played in the games, most of my hands are unreported and overall the stats are way off, although the one time I played NLH @ 50/100, nevermind 200/400, was tracked.

Agreed many people ran up heaters to fall off quickly, but coupling that with his playing style, winrate, game selection, and location makes me extremely suspect. Add to that very few other Swedish players besides Samer & Mohammed have had the arrogance & balls to boast about a massively profitable sn in public considering the tax implications as described, nevermind the gang implications. If he was truly concerned about hiding his identity because of the seriousness of potential recourse as implied in his interview, I have no idea why he would spill it at a televised EPT event.

Great point.

People like this are smart enough to at least be aware that other players will be looking into their graphs and lifetime results.

They certainly know that they need many accounts to do this long term.

They also are smart enough not to win every pot or every session.

They have to "throw some games" so as to keep the ruse ongoing, and hopefully their accounts won't raise any red flags.

Like I've said before, I presume that this form of cheating is far more widespread than most of us want to believe.

If poker sites have no responsibility for losses incurred because someone had their own PC infected with a trojan, this is scarier than I certainly ever imagined.

If these trojans can be downloaded as easy as some here have stated, then online poker will never be a truly safe place to play for anything north of $1/$2.

I've always played small stakes, but have more than enough to jump up to mid-stakes, but after this thread, I don't ever see myself putting my bankroll in a position to be siphoned off to some of these frauds.

Federal regulation is certainly needed, but these guys don't hack poker sites, they hack your computer. I'm not sure how regs will stop this.

Not to mention, that even if some of these guys are caught, they'll still multi-account to achieve their monetary goals the easy way, cheating.

The whole thing makes me sick.

slaktarn is a moronic degen that live in a completely different part of sweden than the alleged cheaters. I really doubt he's involved in any way.
From what i hear he's broke too.

This, but before people chime in after his downswing the Slaktarn account didn't jump back into play, you won't find any accounts that ran it up to an absurd figure like 5m or something. They were thinking of the bigger picture & FF had already been through the Lodden ordeal & would've obviously made changes to avoid a repeat. This is by no means concrete, but all too coincidental imo.

fwiw I also remember watching TheTerrorists video on his website around the time & discussing it which likely put my comp's security at risk

can we get some revised cliffs?

And as a side note, does anyone else remember Daniel Negraneau saying that his Pokerstars account was used and so was his email account while he was in a plane sometime last year?

If I remember correctly, someone chip dumped around $25K and sent a lot of unflattering emails to people in his contact list.

Perhaps someone else has more clear details of this than I do.

Unfortunately I never keep hand histories. Any way to dig them up on PTR?

you can get FTP to send you every hand you have ever played then upload them into pokertracker

Thanks for the input. I'm not ready to give him a free pass yet but if I was wrong I apologize to Peter, but still no love for redistributing my loot if the above post is proven true. Unfortunately it's going to take alot of research & feedback to determine as many cheating accts as possible since we all know it was much more than 3...

sorry man, i have no idea, never used ptr before today. Surely someone itt may know how to obtain your HH

Damn, yeah man, i can see Alladin scammed you



And is interesting to see these comments posted on his ptr profile in 2010

Regulation will make a massive difference because laws will be put in place to punish these hackers severely & the police won't ignore the theft because online poker is a grey area. Also I think the IT awareness of virtually every mid-high stakes player is going to improve drastically as a result of this. I know mine will.

Hm..intressting..

I think that i have seen regista8 on prima aswell couple of years ago aswell.. but then the nick was only regista then....and location was Halmstad.
Im not 100% sure about this.. but almost, cus im from Halmstad so i thought it could bee someone that i know.

When i saw him on FTP i think the location was Sweden only..but not sure..