Just lost all the respect I had for Will Reynolds

Baffles me how stuff like this is happening in Sweden of all countries.

Why?

All our women are not blonde and our houses are not made out of pink fluffy clouds as the rumor has it. #TEAMUSA go to war, where do you think all the crazy distressed arabs migrate to? lolsweden.

The guy suggesting buying protection from Hells Angels made my day. Too much sons of anarchy, not enough reality, for you.

This wouldn't of happened in Sweden in the 1960ies

Thanks Ibleedbenjamines for awesome cliffs. Crazy situation and ADZ and Samer are scum. Maybe NVG should create a 'scum hall of infamy' where a certain number of votes is required to get in--with pics, bios, and so on.

This is just sad, even without this thread (but infinitely more so with it). To glorify money-obsessed punks who give nothing to the world but seek to take endlessly is so typical these days and so wrong.

solid cliffs! thx.

No.

Right bc I lived that was reality & no, didn't deserve it one bit... but mock all you want, it went away.

Getting back on topic, we are ready to go to war for you and all of poker. I really feel for the people who have to live in that environment first and foremost. It's obvious that not very many people in the US were or could've been aware of what the situation is like. At the same time a lot of people over here got scammed for some serious loot & suffered a good deal for it. I think we have a good idea who the main players were and for them it was rinse, wash, repeat... for years. Why is Samer ready to get out of poker... because he has no need for it anymore with all the $ he's stolen. Was going for one last big strike. My take is he's worked hand in hand w Mohammed the whole time... At this point hopefully this is getting around the Swedish forums too. I'd have to think the police over there would take some serious interest now that this info has all leaked & we're getting an idea of how much $ was involved & how large the scope of the operation is.

This was written in February by Mohammed "TheTerrorist" Kowssarie on pokerforum.nu

Translated with google translate. If something is unclear just ask and some Swede will probably help. "2006-2007 by:" means he wrote that in 2006/2007.

Wow. A few years back I was in the "bad books" with my citys chapter of a top MC club. Just for being the cousin of a guy that ripped them off. It was a crazy few weeks and Let me tell you, There are few things as scary as being on bad terms with a top MC / organized criminal syndicate. ie messing with one of their income streams.

If I was ADZ Id be keeping his public outbursts to a minimal. Coz airing out LK is one thing but messing up MCs business is a whole nother ball park.

You have obviously watched sons of anarchy really close and are now some expert on MC gangs. It has nothing to do with what happens in Sweden that your post is totally ******ed. I am from England and the same thing applies here and the US and every other country in the whole world.

If you are a poker player/ group of poker players being threatened by a dangerous gang that have already allegedly killed someone involved in poker then the very last thing you would ever do is start asking around for other gangs to get involved.

Not just for the fact then you will be dealing with 2 dangerous groups of killers but also what if your "friend" you asked about was actually not that close to the rival gang and mentioned it to another "friend" who was close with the original gang you were being threatened by? All it would take was someone to over hear it or the wrong person to be told and you could be killed in your bed along with your whole family before the rival gang even knows anything.

But let's say for the sake of it, you did have a friend who was close to a rival gang and they did get you some protection, what if they did not want to negotiate amicably like you believe they would and were just waiting for an excuse to start a full blown war? Then you would be at the center of it all, people could die and the blood would be on your hands.


The best thing these Swede's can do is what they are doing, keep quiet and do things anonymously and nobody should out them or jeapordise their safety. People from the US and elsewhere that are safely away from these gangs should do all they can to investigate and gather evidence and then if there is a major crime going on report it to international authorities and hopefully bring these gangs down.

FWIW Max Ashkar also claimed he was working on behalf of "dangerous people who had threatened him" when he was confronted about his trojan scam last year, though he never mentioned specific names. For those unfamiliar with that story, he scammed a large group of players out of $2m+ by befriending them and installing trojans on their computers. There's a 2+2 thread about it here:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/29...rojan-1120121/

sorry. but this makes no sense... once a Trojan is installed, they could use anyone. create new screen names or whatever... MM would only be able to play people he knew well HU, verify it was actually them he was playing, and then hope they weren't compromised somehow. (willingly or unwillingly... ) into taking part in cheating....

I had never heard of sons of anarchy until it was referenced above & i looked it up on wiki. My situation was much different than what you're reading into & I'll leave it at that. I'm getting the vibe you've watched Sons of Anarchy a lil much.

If you'd read the entirety of my posts ITT & how information has developed you'll see I'm advocating for the same exact thing you recommend. At this point I would be thinking the authorities will take some interest in the matter

& the reason there was no full blown war was because as I mentioned before these guys are about business & the poster above mentioning his own experience with income streams should emphasize that. The issue was nowhere near having a bloodbath over. Sometimes gangs fight, sometimes they do business. If I was ADZ or Samer I'd be making some phone calls right now trying to control some damage.

how would he know its samer that he is playing?

that was painful to watch

Hej, do you have the text in Swedish?
When I clicked your link I got a 'page not found'. I'd rather read in Swedish than in googletranslate -English.

Stars can be stingy with the confiscated money.

Idk if this helps or not but I caught some cheaters on stars one time. Two guys were raising back and forth to trap me. They then ended up showing that they both had ace high. One of them had AK and another had AJ. I had an overpair QQ and was forced to fold believing that one of them had to have me beat. Once I saw their cards I got really suspicious and looked them up on ptr and saw that they play together quite a bit and turned them into stars. Stars ended up giving me my money back that I lost in the hand and I emailed them back telling them I deserved the whole pot ~1k. After many emails they then game me the pot up until what I had invested which was triple their original amount. I told them that this was ridiculous and if I wasn't cheated I would have continued with the hand and won the entire pot. They confiscated many times the amount of money I was asking for and they wouldn't have caught them without my help. After about a dozen emails they finally coughed up the entire pot. I know this is a much smaller scale and different situation but maybe it could help.

Cliffs: I catch cheaters stars confiscates a ton of money from them and was stingy giving me the money from the pot I was cheated out of.

i dont know why you would get the whole pot unless you were 100% to win the hand

seems like a standard spot to just recieve whatever equity you had in the pot back

Prob because 2 villain's colluded to push him out of pot. If they wouldn't collud he would most likely take it down without showdown or get his money in vs 1 villain (assuming if they wouldn't collude atleast 1 of them would let his Ace high go).

I just watched the video. I need a bit of clarification... is this a documentary or is he acting out himself? I mean seriously if I would be filmed and I was such a c***, I would at least try not to look like a douchebag.

^^
Recently I got a refund from Stars based on the fact that I was a victim of a scam? ( violation of our Terms of Service )
I didn't report anything , and there was no mention in the e mail how or in what game the problem occurred.