Man Kathy is on fire!

http://twitter.com/pokerkat

LOL

Well in essence she is right. He is a nit, has man boobs and really dresses worse than anybody I have seen.

apparently live ppl dont know mike the mouth is the nit of nits? flops Kings full and plays it fast "now were playing some poker boys!" i love how eli ripped him a new one when he said this, and then tried to play it off as a joke...

So true.

Lederer- 2 WPT titles in Season 1
Liebert- 105 wpt events, no win

lol. lederer #winning

If I hadn't not graduated Harvard, I would have graduated Harvard as well.

why can't he wear the clothes and still make all the full tilt dough?

woman makes a rash statement that she cant possibly back up about somebody she doesnt like.

period



AsianSpa RT @pokerkat What I said about Howard is true.*** damn right - not all "Pros" are #Winning players ***
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Retweeted by pokerkat .AsianSpa RT @pokerkat @asianspa he was in debt #loser **** #NegativeCashFlow **** #NonWinner

So just to clarify things... Daniel N. had sexual relations with Kathy?

Is this confirmed?

Where would FTP be if Party Poker hadn't left the US market?

It looks to me like she's adjusting her personality in order to keep what relevance she has as more female players (Selbst, Boeree, Obrestad) start to succeed at the game.

I don't think she cares much about her relevance as a female player. She never took any deal with an online site (she doesn't play online).

She was playing tournaments pretty much exclusively when they started to be televised, which made her a little of a celebrity. She plays a lot of major tournaments and she is probably significantly +ROI.

As for her personality, I don't think she adjusted it. She is very chatty at the tables though. Likable and a little flamboyant.

I´m not a Howard Lederer fan (I actually hate him), but he obviously made a very smart investment and he played a significant role in setting up what I perceive to be the most sexy poker site (sofware/graphics/aggro games). Because of that, he will never have to worry about being good at a stupid card game again. Kathy Liebert on the other hand failed at attracting any kind of significant sponsorship during the Poker Boom and she probably isn´t even a winning poker player anymore. Her edge might be non-existent as we speak, but she will definitely be a loser some time from now (Almost everybody will be obviously). I could add some harsh ad personam remarks re:looks/annoyance factor, but I will keep those to myself. Who the f is she to judge anyone? This reminds me of Daniel Negreanu bashing UB: Idiots bashing idiots because they´re idiots.

She was on Team PokerStars Pro a while back for a year and also had at least one patch deal with them.

http://www.azpokerchick.com/poker-ne...pokerstars/575

She won $800K in her 2nd and 3rd place finishes in WPT events in 2008 and 2009. Maybe she has since become a losing player. Anyway, a losing player in major tournaments does not mean a losing poker player.

she has got issues:

Kathy Liebert
Taking the Bay101 jet with Ferguson Lindgren Esfandiari Todd Brunson hope Howard not on flight too
9 hours 59 minutes ago

LOL, poor Howard. He is more hated than his sister and this is saying something!

no one hates howard. ppl just dont like him.
big difference.

sooooooooo true

why does this mean "she has got issues"?

FYP

Such a ridiculous statement. A more accurate statement (but possibly still false) would be, he'd be bust if he had to start over, no way to get backers, no stake in FT, and had to suddenly play poker for a living, despite not having played much at all since the start of FT due to him being a business man now. If he only played poker for a living since FT started and was not involved in FT, I'm fairly confident he would be doing fine. He might not be able to compete with Ivey/Durrr, but he'd definitely hold his own. He doesn't play well now, b/c he doesn't have to and hasn't had to for a long time. There's a fairly reasonable chance he would have just gone into some other business if not for FT.

To the people claim it's "just luck of right place at right time"...uhhh no. There were 1000s of poker players around that could have done the same and 1000s of poker sites that popped up that failed. It takes a ton of skill to make it to where FT did today. Sure there's some luck involved (as with all of life), but it's not just luck that he/FT succeeded.

Lots of pros would be with Negreanu heading the list. As I remember it, Pokerstars really saved him. This list could be really long but there is no way to quantify it b/c they didn't have to get out and grind it/

Kathy probably has to win something else big to get an endorsement contract. She just isn't the image a site wants to project, being a woman and not particularly attractive, feminine, or young. Particularly now that all the sites want to switch to young Internet players. Think she is a good tournament player based on her results and being at her table.

As mentioned, Lederer has tons of money to play major tournaments and TV cash games. He probably never was that good at NLHE as opposed to limit poker. If he didn't have the money, he probably would put more work into his game and/or focus on games he could beat.

ditto that

How would Howard get involved in a company that didn't exist until after Moneymaker won the '03 WSOPME?
Gates was a pretty savvy businessman and a good programmer but MS wouldn't have been as big as it was today if not for the licensing of QDOS/86DOS which he did not create. So while he did co-found the company. The technology that launched Microsoft was not created by him nor was he involved. He was simply at the right place to get the licensing deal from IBM and make a fortune.

Yes Gates sourced an OS called QDOS/86DOS. Named it MS-DOS and sold IBM a license to use it as PC-DOS. They kept the rights to redistribute MS-DOS so when all the PC Clones came out Microsoft made tons of money licensing MS-DOS
Probably the only post in this thread worth reading (besides mine of course)