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03-10-2011 , 05:05 AM

#26

carradioyes

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HOward L started out in NYC underground cash games no? Must have learned something.

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03-10-2011 , 05:09 AM

#27

Honey Badger

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Originally Posted by Biffo

Obama would be a bust out politician if he didn't fall into the Presidency.
Bill Gates would be a bust out programmer if he didn't fall into Microsoft
Derek Jeter would be a bust out ball player if he didn't fall into the NYY.

Luck or Ability....you choose.

none of these are even correct lol

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03-10-2011 , 05:23 AM

#28

STFUdonny

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Originally Posted by Loctus

If "genius Harvard graduate" means "bust out programmer" now'adays, then sure.

Read Outliers by Malcolm Gladwell.

"Falling into Microsoft" isn't the best way to put it, but just like any other successful person, Bill Gates had to be in exactly the right place at the right time to be able to accomplish what he has. It wasn't just raw talent and will to succeed, it almost never is.

It is most likely true for the outliers of the poker world as well. Howard certainly is a good example, he was lucky enough to have money, have an idea, have credibility, at the perfect time for an online site to be successful (after others had failed and paved the way).

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03-10-2011 , 05:27 AM

#29

clutchbeastmaster

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Originally Posted by Army Eye

Yes, that generation of players did do very well for themselves, but how did Lederer fall into anything, he's the one that started the site..

i don't know anything about that but my point is he wouldn't of even of had the opportunity to create such a site as FTP if he didn't run good in those 2 tournaments pre money maker era and get all of that television coverage with his sister annie. right place right time

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03-10-2011 , 05:44 AM

#30

KyddDynamite

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Originally Posted by Loctus

If "genius Harvard graduate" means "bust out programmer" now'adays, then sure.

He never graduated

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03-10-2011 , 06:21 AM

#31

Doctor Love

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Like Howard has to defend himself against a comment like that from Kathy anyway, she's the biggest nit next to ferguson in the game. It makes no sense why she would say something like this just in general conversation, she is obv bitter that he's doing well and she obv isn't.

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03-10-2011 , 06:21 AM

#32

Sherlockyyyy

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Originally Posted by KyddDynamite

He never graduated

He would have if he hadn't started Microsoft.

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03-10-2011 , 06:22 AM

#33

Sherlockyyyy

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Originally Posted by STFUdonny

That's not the point.
Being busto and being "not as successful" are not the same things.

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03-10-2011 , 06:31 AM

#34

253122

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howard is a freak and a weird dude

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03-10-2011 , 06:56 AM

#35

WhoRaRa

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Originally Posted by Biffo

Wow. Talk about posting for the sheer sake of posting...

I dont know much about politics, but Im pretty sure being a senator isn't a political bust. The Jeter comment is the most mind boggling, though. You're saying if he was drafted by the Red Sox he wouldn't be a good player? Get ahold of yourself.

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03-10-2011 , 07:08 AM

#36

aboogie

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Originally Posted by HocusPokus

i mean, it's probably 100% true.
i'd even find it hard to believe howard could/would deny this.

well of course...he's rich, why deny it?

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03-10-2011 , 07:10 AM

#37

aboogie

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Originally Posted by clutchbeastmaster

she is right though. all the pros that had some tourney success pre money maker era hit the **** gold mine. if they had that kind of success today they would have a hard time getting a good sponsorship deal let a lone having a huge stake in FTP.

another if...sounds like matusow, lol.

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03-10-2011 , 07:12 AM

#38

aboogie

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Originally Posted by 253122

howard is a freak and a weird dude

he's rich and won't read this...but I find this comment effective

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03-10-2011 , 07:22 AM

#39

aboogie

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Originally Posted by nastyyy

Who doesn't think that?

Rich members of team FT

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03-10-2011 , 07:26 AM

#40

aboogie

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Originally Posted by clutchbeastmaster

If Kathy had not run good somewhere...along time ago...she would have known Howard...She might even be playing on FT.

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03-10-2011 , 07:40 AM

#41

Bill_Clinton

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I don't believe that quote at all, Lederer started with less than nothing in the poker world and he made millions by grindind cash games and tournaments before he found Full Tilt.

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03-10-2011 , 07:41 AM

#42

Brocktoon

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Originally Posted by WhoRaRa

I dont know much about politics, but Im pretty sure being a senator isn't a political bust. The Jeter comment is the most mind boggling, though. You're saying if he was drafted by the Red Sox he wouldn't be a good player? Get ahold of yourself.

You are mocking things that were posted as examples of "things that would be stupid to say" by the person you quoted.

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03-10-2011 , 08:36 AM

#43

Widespread Panic

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Originally Posted by MrFizzbin

"Howard Ledderer would be a bust out poker player if he didnt fall into full tilt"

I know english is the second language around here alot of the time but this sentence can be interpretted to mean that Lederer would be a successful poker player if not for ft.

she may have been giving him a compliment.

so, I feel like I need to counter it to make the world right again.

Howard's a douche who talks too much at the table like he's the only one who knows strategy in card games.

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03-10-2011 , 08:47 AM

#44

aussiestar29

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She on 2p2. Great to hear some thoughts. Howards hasnt been on here in years or was he ever on here?

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03-10-2011 , 09:01 AM

#45

William Murderface

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Originally Posted by aussiestar29

She on 2p2. Great to hear some thoughts. Howards hasnt been on here in years or was he ever on here?

If Howard starts posting on 2p2, then I'll probably move move to p5s

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03-10-2011 , 09:13 AM

#46

Sadako

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Originally Posted by WhoRaRa

He's making the point that saying he "fell" into Full Tilt is a little discrediting.

Most people earn what they get out of life, not everyone is a fat jealous slob like Kathy.

A point I see most of you missed.