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Garrett Adelstein Report on Likely Cheating on Hustler Casino Live Garrett Adelstein Report on Likely Cheating on Hustler Casino Live

10-07-2022 , 11:40 PM
imo Garret should be investigated next. More likely that he is the ring leader here

-A source messaged me
10-07-2022 , 11:40 PM
RIP is the weak link. Expose the "wealth" from pharma. Then everything else starts to crumble.
10-07-2022 , 11:40 PM
this is getting spicy
10-07-2022 , 11:41 PM
Any estimates as to how much Beanz is down in these livestreams? From the few hands I've seen he seems like a huge spot, so if implicated in the cheating it seems like a recent, opportunistic development
10-07-2022 , 11:43 PM
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Originally Posted by \o/
Any estimates as to how much Beanz is down in these livestreams? From the few hands I've seen he seems like a huge spot, so if implicated in the cheating it seems like a recent, opportunistic development
you can use the site trackingpoker.com to see the stats on each player who have played on stream
10-07-2022 , 11:43 PM
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Originally Posted by MatthewNL
There is no real evidence Robbi cheated and it seems like conjecture and assumptions. When accusing someone of cheating in this matter I think a degree of caution should be exercised.
I disagree completely. In order to maintain game integrity, less restraint should be taken in regards to identifying and outing cheaters, not more. Cheating is rampant throughout the poker world, in large part because people just turn a blind eye to it.

Also, it's not so easy to actually prove that a cheater is cheating. Hell, even with Postlegate where there were hundreds of hours of footage of him staring at his crotch and playing hands funny in such a way that netted him a ridiculous amount of money, there was no definitive proof and the exact cheating method was never definitively identified. That being said, hopefully Hustler is being more helpful with the investigation than Stones appeared to be back then.

Regardless, if you think someone might be cheating then you should speak up. To not speak up is a license for these cheaters to continue doing what they are doing.
10-07-2022 , 11:45 PM
Wild stuff, will be interesting to see if anything concrete comes from it
10-07-2022 , 11:48 PM
Everything can be explained by sexism, racism, climate change denial. Its all the proof you need. Robbi is as harmless as lockdowns/vaccines/moneyprinting.

Definitely do not look into Pizzagate. There was nothing wrong going on there either. The public street cameras shut off all at once the day a gunman came and shot up the place, just a coincidence. Oh he only shot one bullet and it went into the computer hard drive, probably nothing.

Do not look into gamergate. Nothing to see there. No way darpa control and censor the media.
10-07-2022 , 11:48 PM
I hope they paid Bryan off cuz that dude is clearly the weakest link in the scheme
10-07-2022 , 11:48 PM
I'm astounded at how good Robbie, Rip, and Bryn Kenney are at lying.
10-07-2022 , 11:49 PM
would like to hear from reza on the ingram pod. he has been at the hustler all week, playing hacky sack outside on breaks, still pissed at garrett for getting him thrown off stream only for being from palestine, still bitches about his under armour backpack compared to garrett's, was he in the control room,explains the j4 hand imo
10-07-2022 , 11:51 PM
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Originally Posted by curdanol
No one cheating for hundreds of thousands of dollars would be this stupid, would they?

Isn't there an "Idiots Guide to Cheating" or something to keep cheaters from being blatant and dumb?

why are there so many people so blind to the stupidy of criminals? Do you people even look into the stories of actual robbers and stuff? Stop watching Ocean's 11 and hollywood BS about thieves. Most criminals aren't ****ing masterminds. They don't act calculated and removed from emotion.

FFS
10-07-2022 , 11:52 PM
Lets not pretend Nick V isn't likely involved.
10-07-2022 , 11:53 PM
This strikes me as a whole lot of very, very weak evidence, most of it included to distract from the fact they there is still no actual evidence that Lew knew what anyone’s hole cards were in any hand.

If you seriously believe Lew was somehow getting a signal of other people’s hole cards, please post some hands (any hands!) where Lew played in such a way that (a) was unusual and (b) actually gave her a benefit in the hand.
10-07-2022 , 11:55 PM
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Originally Posted by MatthewNL
Looking at Garret's post, he is now walking back the "She is 100% guilty of cheating" to lesser more vague accusations.
Which ****ing post did you read lol.
10-07-2022 , 11:55 PM
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Originally Posted by netProd1gy
why are there so many people so blind to the stupidy of criminals? Do you people even look into the stories of actual robbers and stuff? Stop watching Ocean's 11 and hollywood BS about thieves. Most criminals aren't ****ing masterminds. They don't act calculated and removed from emotion.

FFS
Very true. Cheaters are generally numbskulls and often can't plan squat.

I've been 4 Square behind Gman on this one, despite generally enjoying seeing him lose. That "Rabia" woman has been lying from the start.

I'm sure Gman has to be careful about how things are phrased since this eventually will go to court and there could be lawsuits from several directions.
10-07-2022 , 11:55 PM
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Originally Posted by NickMPK
This strikes me as a whole lot of very, very weak evidence, most of it included to distract from the fact they there is still no actual evidence that Lew knew what anyone’s hole cards were in any hand.

If you seriously believe Lew was somehow getting a signal of other people’s hole cards, please post some hands (any hands!) where Lew played in such a way that (a) was unusual and (b) actually gave her a benefit in the hand.
I am pretty sure the allegation is that she didn't know the hole cards, just a signal if she was ahead or not.
10-07-2022 , 11:57 PM
This hand and situation has passed way beyond reasonable doubt. This apology from the guy Bryan with a checkered past (to say the very least) reads ridiculously, as if sucking up massively to Robbi. At minimum it's the bare minimum aside from the start of Bryan redeeming himself from his way of life. At maximum, it's a total fabrication and in actuality I think it is about equally likely that it's a fabrication vs a sincere apology (both are uncommon). It may even be MORE likely a fabrication in this spot, because Robbi and Bryan have every incentive to defend their reputations.

The whole fact that they follow each other, and lied about knowing each other is wildly damning. Extremely, extremely unlikely alone to be coincidence. By that fact almost alone the chances of cheating are >90%, with everything combined > 99%...
10-07-2022 , 11:58 PM
5:06:06: Robbi sees something off camera, gives an extremely concerned look, and then glances at RIP. EXTREMELY CIRCUMSTANTIAL.
5:06:26: Rip mouths "Get It!" while motioning that it’s something on the casino floor. YES, HE DOES. THEY MAY BE COLLUDING AT THE TABLE, BUT IT STILL DOESN'T PROVE CHEATING FROM THE BOOTH.
5:06:34: The mic picks up RIP saying to Robbi "You are unbelievable." Robbi says something back but her face is mostly off camera. HOW CAN YOU KNOW THIS IS RIP? SOUNDS REALLY CREEPY, BUT THERE IS NO PROOF ON WHO SAYS THIS. ROBBI DOES MOUTH SOMETHING LATER ON, I GUESS TO RIP, BUT THERE IS NO TELLING WHAT IT IS OR TO WHOM.
5:06:47: Rip mouths "Get it….once you go out there." POSSIBLY MORE COLLUDING, BUT NO EVIDENCE OF PRODUCTION CHEATING.
5:07:23: Rip gets up to leave the table while still in a $3300 pot. Robbi also leaves the table, returning around 20 minutes later. RIP TABLES HIS HAND IN A PUNT CALL. HE DOES NOT LEAVE IN THE MIDDLE OF A HAND. NO CLUE WHAT ROBBI WAS DOING.
Although it is not known what Robbi needs to “get”, it can be inferred it’s pretty important if RIP is getting up before the hand is over. NO HE DOESN'T. HE CALLS AND TABLES HIS HAND AS HE STANDS UP.

I GUESS IT'S POSSIBLE THE CHEATS WERE DUMB ENOUGH TO KEEP GOING ON STREAM, BUT I'LL LEAN THE SIDE OF IF THEY WERE CHEATING, THEY STILL WEREN'T DUMB ENOUGH TO KEEP CHEATING AFTER THE INCIDENT WITH GARRETT.

Last edited by tarheels2222; 10-08-2022 at 12:13 AM.
10-07-2022 , 11:59 PM
I can't imagine spending more than an hour at Javier's. I wonder what Nik Doucheball had cooking that took 7 hours.
10-08-2022 , 12:03 AM
Good game. Well played, Garrett.
10-08-2022 , 12:04 AM
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Originally Posted by sickhuman
2 diff Nick's, ex Law enforcement real estate grifter Nick Vertucci runs the show and Garrett will never say **** to him.

Nik A is mid 20s trust fund kid who talks **** and wants to go to war, so Garrett is using his association w Robbi/Rip as a pretext to get him blackballed so he can have Bill Klein and JR all to himself.
Have you ever seen Nik A play? You have lost your damn mind if you think Garrett doesn’t want him in the game
10-08-2022 , 12:04 AM
The hand speaks for itself.

If she's loaded and doesn't care about the money why did she need a stake? Why prior did she only play low buyins?

If she's horrible at poker and bad enough to call off J4 in that spot why would someone stake her in the first place?

Why did RIP have to get a loan days prior to play in the game, a game which he's staking someone?

Why did the Hustler employee choose Robbi's stack to steal from knowing everything around her will be scrutinised?

Why did Robbi change her explanation of the hand every 10 secs in the immediate aftermath of the hand? She never once on the river speculated what Garrett might have. This indicates she knew she was ahead somehow but there was no strategy behind it - if she blurted out I beat low suited connecters then maybe they'd be some logic to this whole thing, but not much.

Why is the person who vouched for Robbi a scammer and why is the person staking Robbi allegedly shady?

NONE of the above makes any sense.

Last edited by nuxxx; 10-08-2022 at 12:23 AM.
10-08-2022 , 12:05 AM
Nothing much was added here, but a lot of conjecture, IMO. Still no smoking gun and most likely never will be.
10-08-2022 , 12:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Dream Crusher
I disagree completely. In order to maintain game integrity, less restraint should be taken in regards to identifying and outing cheaters, not more. Cheating is rampant throughout the poker world, in large part because people just turn a blind eye to it.

Also, it's not so easy to actually prove that a cheater is cheating. Hell, even with Postlegate where there were hundreds of hours of footage of him staring at his crotch and playing hands funny in such a way that netted him a ridiculous amount of money, there was no definitive proof and the exact cheating method was never definitively identified. That being said, hopefully Hustler is being more helpful with the investigation than Stones appeared to be back then.

Regardless, if you think someone might be cheating then you should speak up. To not speak up is a license for these cheaters to continue doing what they are doing.
I don't agree exactly, and I definitely don't think cheating is rampant in the poker world. I think availability heuristic blows it up, and the skill is to make the appropriate response to cheaters while limiting the downside of bias. One way of doing this is through gratitude, by remembering the honor and integrity people play with. There are countless parallels to life, and an important key to happiness I realized is gratitude logically. The laws of the universe would have to differ wildly in order for it to be any other way

I don't agree that cheaters need to be accused fast, this is a horrible way to deal with people. There should be a scale from 1-10, with 1 being no suspicion and 10 being confirmed cheat. In between, you ask questions and probe to make sure they are legit... Navigating the gray areas folks

      
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