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11-19-2020 , 01:13 AM

#4151

Dick Tracy

old hand

Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 1,796

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Originally Posted by easyfnmoney

Inb4 polk fanboys say

[x] muh variance
[x] muh sample size
[x] muh sunrunner
[x] muh solver

What else did I miss?

Spoiler:

it's all so tiresome

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Originally Posted by blankoblanco

Imagine pointing out that there are reasons for a worse player to be beating a better player over a few k hands

Do you actually think Daniel is favored to win the match? If yes, you're dumb. If no, your post is both dumb and pointless

NVG is such a cesspool. The Daniel fanboys feeling themselves bc he's up 4 or 5 whole buyins is gonna age really well, I'm sure

[ H u m a n T r i b a l i s m D e t e c t e d ]

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11-19-2020 , 01:23 AM

#4152

lonely_but_rich

ɔarpal \ʇunnel

Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 23,431

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Originally Posted by daxile

I would be jumping for joy if I managed to put money on doug for this match.

How difficult was it to bet on Doug and why are you happy he's losing?

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11-19-2020 , 01:31 AM

#4153

GeoffRas22

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Originally Posted by blankoblanco

Eh, I think there's a reasonable conversation to be had about how people have been reacting (on both sides) to each individual session. Obviously Doug has an edge, probably a super big one, but what was the point of this match at all if any outcome where Doug wins is undeniable proof of that, and any outcome where DN wins/outperforms expectation is just an example of this not being a big enough sample size of hands and/or variance?

I'm rooting for Doug fwiw, so hardly a " Daniel fanboy", but ya.

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11-19-2020 , 01:42 AM

#4154

aqb

grinder

Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 695

Enough people feeling Dnegs is the favorite now, so if anyone wants to bet I’m willing to put my $1k on Doug winning to your $3k. Escrow needed ty.

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11-19-2020 , 01:46 AM

#4155

tarheels2222

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Originally Posted by GeoffRas22

Maths.

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11-19-2020 , 01:59 AM

#4156

silverware

journeyman

Join Date: Feb 2018 Posts: 212

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Originally Posted by aqb

Enough people feeling Dnegs is the favorite now, so if anyone wants to bet I’m willing to put my $1k on Doug winning to your $3k. Escrow needed ty.

I'll put 3k to your 10k. I can find escrow, pm me.

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11-19-2020 , 02:00 AM

#4157

bc11816

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Join Date: Sep 2019 Posts: 379

Was Daniel running hot or better player for the last session?

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11-19-2020 , 02:19 AM

#4158

ProRailbird

banned

Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 1,292

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Originally Posted by bc11816

Was Daniel running hot or better player for the last session?

it's hard to say because we can't see hole cards. if you believe daniel though in the session before this one where he lost he was running very bad and ran into straight over straight and flush over flush multiple times, then the one time he had flush over flush the board ran out 4 to the flush and he couldn't play for stacks.

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11-19-2020 , 02:27 AM

#4159

TreadLightly

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 3,722

new pokershares odds

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11-19-2020 , 03:08 AM

#4160

aqb

grinder

Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 695

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Originally Posted by silverware

I'll put 3k to your 10k. I can find escrow, pm me.

Am I being bamboozled here?

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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11-19-2020 , 03:15 AM

#4161

NJPW

old hand

Join Date: Feb 2017 Posts: 1,499

Quote:

Originally Posted by easyfnmoney

Inb4 polk fanboys say

[x] muh variance
[x] muh sample size
[x] muh sunrunner
[x] muh solver

What else did I miss?

Spoiler:

it's all so tiresome

Welcome back to the thread. Funny how you disappeared when Polk was winning. You're implying you think DNegs will win. We should bet on it. 4:1 ok with you?

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11-19-2020 , 04:14 AM

#4162

insyder19

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Can someone just post the biggest hands here for people, who don't have 2-3 hours to watch a stream? Or is there a video on YT with timestamps?

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11-19-2020 , 04:55 AM

#4163

georgelboss

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Join Date: Dec 2013 Posts: 291

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Originally Posted by pokerashich

Too early for that kind of smug talk. However, it's obvious unless DP does some adjusting it will be far from the cakewalk most expected.

Stupid question, does playing GTO allow for adjustments?

Nobody plays near GTO, they can only try to understand the GTO principles and apply it in their games as much as it's humanly possible.

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11-19-2020 , 05:13 AM

#4164

votedstraw

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Join Date: Nov 2020 Posts: 61

Lol people actually think Daniel is a favourite now, only because he won a few buy ins yesterday running like a god.

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11-19-2020 , 05:42 AM

#4165

ProRailbird

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Session for session Daniel has won 4 sessions and Doug has won 3. I think if the match continues to be a back and forth battle in this early phase that's going to amount to a big positive factor for Daniel in the long run. Doug's biggest weakness IMO is his mental game. He's already quit poker once, and talked about how he gets anxiety from playing now, and he almost quit poker before his career really took off. Doug also has a lot more to lose with his claim to fame being the #1 NLHEHU player and being the face of the biggest training site. Not being able to put together consistent wins can be pretty frustrating

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11-19-2020 , 05:48 AM

#4166

SizzlerFTW

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Doug being hussled by Daniel and Perkins - didn't see that one coming

I'd look into this "team" Daniel has supporting him, if I was Doug.

Nice play Perkins..

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11-19-2020 , 06:12 AM

#4167

partywme

adept

Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 957

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Originally Posted by SizzlerFTW

Doug being hussled by Daniel and Perkins - didn't see that one coming

I'd look into this "team" Daniel has supporting him, if I was Doug.

Nice play Perkins..

Lol at Doug being hussled by one of the biggest fish in the poker eco system

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11-19-2020 , 06:17 AM

#4168

SizzlerFTW

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Originally Posted by partywme

Lol at Doug being hussled by one of the biggest fish in the poker eco system

Never underestimate your enemy, in this case a bunch of sicko millionaire who made a living out of exploiting people (sounds probably too harsh, but there not exactly healthcare personnel).

That doesn't mean there's a master plan, where Daniel is a favourite in the HU game: Daniel's +EV play with his challenge is simply allowing himself a crash course to remain relevant in the digital poker world of the future. If you would consider Dnegs as a company, he's doing something very smart, a transformation to be prepared for the future, in a very efficient amount of time (+ publicity).

But that's besides the point, which was: Never underestimate your enemy

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11-19-2020 , 06:19 AM

#4169

GERB1111

centurion

Join Date: Jul 2014 Posts: 125

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Originally Posted by SereneTuna

Betfair still has Dnegs at 5/1 if anyone fancies a punt.

oh i didnt know betfair had this, cheers

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Originally Posted by insyder19

Can someone just post the biggest hands here for people, who don't have 2-3 hours to watch a stream? Or is there a video on YT with timestamps?

Agreed, would be great if Joey done a youtube highlights thing, or Fees...

Lowest price Doug was bet was 1.1 and DN was 3.2, when was DN a 2/1 shot???...1.24 Doug seems value.

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11-19-2020 , 06:58 AM

#4170

King Fish

A Big Deal Around Here

Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 15,117

Is Doug alright?

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11-19-2020 , 07:07 AM

#4171

butt factory

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Join Date: Oct 2019 Posts: 90

I wish everyone that posted in NVG threads actually played online poker because the games would be like 2007 level amazing

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11-19-2020 , 07:16 AM

#4172

SizzlerFTW

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Sure mr butt factory poker pro guy

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11-19-2020 , 07:29 AM

#4173

FoldOnce

grinder

Join Date: Oct 2016 Posts: 592

Polk getting crushed by an old live pro at nosebleed HU is a fitting way for his poker career to end. Ryan Fee losing a bunch of money too is just the icing on the cake. Get these snake oil salesmen out of here.

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11-19-2020 , 07:43 AM

#4174

forssell

old hand

Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,864

+1 for Kevin and Kaki. Kev I like a lot, fun dude and child-like enthusiasm for poker, wish I still had that haha. And with Kaki they make a good combo, hope they come back.

Anime-Joey and the kid is good too. Wish they talked more of the hands as the kid is by far the best at commentating on high-stakes HU, and Joey obv knows what to ask. Do understand that since Joey been taking time off people wanna hear whats up thou.

Other options IÂ´ve muted pretty quick.

Great to see the challenge being competitive and interesting so far!

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11-19-2020 , 07:56 AM

#4175

borg23

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Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 16,612

Yes of course DN and Polk are way better at poker than Blizerian but Polk asking if Blitz is man enough to play him is pretty funny considering he'd only play DN in the one form of poker he specializes in, HU NL online (save for 200 live hands)

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