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Daniel Negreanu would bet 1 million dollars that he could beat high stakes online NLHE Daniel Negreanu would bet 1 million dollars that he could beat high stakes online NLHE

08-16-2014 , 09:53 AM
Waiting for mrwong to comment.
That's the only qualified person to comment on **** Daniel says.
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08-16-2014 , 10:07 AM
He didn't play bad on HSP, He got burnt in seemingly every good spot he found. Obviously we didn't see every hand but from the hands I saw he was a loser on the show when he had the edge in most big hands. He didn't get lucky and everyone else did when they played a hand against him. It was far from the norm and even the commentators agreed year after year with me.

With regards to online winning, it's a different game and one that would require Daniel to make some serious changes to his current game. He has the money and he has the knowledge to do just that, it's just a question of whether he wants to make a challenge of it and put his money up. If I were him I would decline but of course I am not him.
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08-16-2014 , 10:41 AM
Could I get a proper handicap on these particular outcomes?

1) Daniel says his twitter was hacked?

2) Daniel says his twitter was hacked by trex313?

3) Daniel posts in thread?

4) Daniel posts in thread in next two week?

5) Daniel posts in thread and post contains an iteration of "I will not post again in this thread."

6) Daniel accepts his own challenge?

7) Daniel accepts his own challenge with extremely self-serving caveats?

8) Daniel refuses to accept his own challenge unless he receives each and every demand he makes about conditions?

9) Daniel was serious until the million against him pooled together in a few days?

10) Daniel is just a master troll?
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08-16-2014 , 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by SicilianTaimanov
Name any sport and tell if someone can beat the best by training in 2 weeks. That's like Manchester United say they can beat Chelsea consistently by training in 2 weeks. Laughable.
Lol soccer
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08-16-2014 , 11:19 AM
IF HSNL on stars/ft is just a bunch of people passing money between each other, why don't more HSNL regs go and play on the softer Euro sites ?
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08-16-2014 , 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by ChickenDave
IF HSNL on stars/ft is just a bunch of people passing money between each other, why don't more HSNL regs go and play on the softer Euro sites ?
They don't pass money around. They mostly just wait for some fish to sit and then play when they have a big edge.

Reg v reg action at hsnl is rare and generally only happens in hu 4 roll challenges or ego "I'm the best" wars.
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08-16-2014 , 11:26 AM
DN couldn't beat 25nl few years back. I honestly believe that DN cannot beat 50nl (without coaching tho), what about 5k+ nl.
DN Challenge to beat micros

[ ] DN has a chance
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08-16-2014 , 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by David Sklansky
In order for a six handed game to be super tough, the sixth best player has to quite good. But if he is, why wouldn't he realize he should be playing smaller? In other words unless these almost top notch players are essentially suckers, one would expect at least one weak player in the game. And one weak player might be all that Daniel would need.
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Originally Posted by trup_qq
Yeah but what if there are plenty of HSNL regs ready to seat-script bum hunt Daniel because they see HIM as the sucker? Now he's the sixth best player in the game..
"If you can't spot the sucker in the first half-hour at the table, you ARE the sucker."
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08-16-2014 , 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by SootedPowa
They don't pass money around. They mostly just wait for some fish to sit and then play when they have a big edge.

Reg v reg action at hsnl is rare and generally only happens in hu 4 roll challenges or ego "I'm the best" wars.
By fish you mean shot-takers ? I imagine the vast majority of whales prefer playing poker live.
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08-16-2014 , 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by ChickenDave
IF HSNL on stars/ft is just a bunch of people passing money between each other, why don't more HSNL regs go and play on the softer Euro sites ?
HSNL on FT isn't a bunch of people passing money between each other, because they have Gus Hansen. On Stars, I'm not so sure.
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08-16-2014 , 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by smokybacon
HSNL on FT isn't a bunch of people passing money between each other, because they have Gus Hansen. On Stars, I'm not so sure.
Please just don't reply to me SmokyBacon
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08-16-2014 , 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by ChickenDave
Please just don't reply to me SmokyBacon
Why not?
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08-16-2014 , 11:48 AM
Boy.. DN sure loses/lost a lot of rep with this one. So stupid to say something like that, then back out and then twitter about how important selfawareness is.
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08-16-2014 , 11:53 AM
I just can't see daniel beating ike over a decent sample.
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08-16-2014 , 12:04 PM
I know nothing about online poker these days so interesting to read about what the high stakes games are like. SMH at 'seating scripts' Are you kidding me? Yet another reason screen names need to go away.
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08-16-2014 , 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by 5T1N63R
He didn't play bad on HSP, He got burnt in seemingly every good spot he found. Obviously we didn't see every hand but from the hands I saw he was a loser on the show when he had the edge in most big hands. He didn't get lucky and everyone else did when they played a hand against him. It was far from the norm and even the commentators agreed year after year with me.

With regards to online winning, it's a different game and one that would require Daniel to make some serious changes to his current game. He has the money and he has the knowledge to do just that, it's just a question of whether he wants to make a challenge of it and put his money up. If I were him I would decline but of course I am not him.
The commentators agreeing with you doesn't really help your point much.
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08-16-2014 , 12:22 PM
Daniel I will bet you
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08-16-2014 , 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by bmwteam
DN couldn't beat 25nl few years back. I honestly believe that DN cannot beat 50nl (without coaching tho), what about 5k+ nl.
DN Challenge to beat micros

[ ] DN has a chance
this
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08-16-2014 , 12:26 PM
I guess you could say the two youngish well know top live pro's are Phil Ivey and Daniel N. who do you think has the best chance of beating the high stakes NLHE games online right now out of the two? because honestly i dont think either would be a winner but i would say Daniel has the best chance probably because of his work ethic but his chances are slim and would require some variance going his way for sure
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08-16-2014 , 12:26 PM
Would be more interested to see if he can beats midstakes over 100k hands. This would have a decent chance of happenng and might be a close one given he has some good coaching first and that there is enough aside action to get him really motivated. I would bet against him thought.
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08-16-2014 , 12:41 PM
Now that Daniel works out, I bet that Usain Bolt is hoping he doesn't decide to take up running a few weeks before the next Olympics.
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08-16-2014 , 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by samooth
captain dumb imo. you start by stating that 50k is not large, but fail to say what large means or at what point large is reached. then you say that x^2 is larger when the game is played aggressively, and that this means that x is larger as well. time to stop posting.
I'll play Captain Obvious again for the challenged:

The more hands that are played the closer we would see to a true winrate. There are people out there qualified to estimate a number to play to get close to a true winrate. I can guess that many hundreds of thousands of hands (at least) would be required to actually know if someone can expect to beat 6max over the long term. Anyone who's played 6max online a lot knows that 50k hands is meaningless.

It would be fun and a gamble but pointless other than that.

Last edited by Fulzgold; 08-16-2014 at 12:51 PM.
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08-16-2014 , 12:52 PM
If any type of bet actually goes down it seems more fair if he is allowed to play on an unknown account without his usual screen name. Let him blend in like any other new reg.
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08-16-2014 , 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Fulzgold
I'll play Captain Obvious again for the challenged:

Anyone who's played online a lot knows that 50k hands is meaningless.

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You are wrong.

High variance in either direction can mean that a specific 50k sample could indeed not be an accurate reflection of a players ability to beat a game. But the variance will run itself out pretty much evenly in most 50k samples. This is the point you are missing. So to say that any 50k sample is meaningless is just wrong. Some will be somewhat meaningless but most will be very meaningful.
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08-16-2014 , 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by surf doc
If any type of bet actually goes down it seems more fair if he is allowed to play on an unknown account without his usual screen name. Let him blend in like any other new reg.
LOL

Sure. PS would be so happy to allow him to do so.
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