Is this case for all US citizens? Quite peculiar if so.

isnt this a serious offense? like, how does he not catch a charge?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnwYzY4ueYc

Pretty sure it is. You also don't pay taxes on all income. You pay taxes on income over $90k.

Foreign Tax Credit of any value ?

Also very curious about this.

what about the people who stole trucks to transport wounded to the hospital? think they'll be persecuted(sic)?

Vegas police are a little busy now. Also he could use the argument he was trying to save lives. Sort of like people who break car windows of a stranger's car to try to free a baby locked in a car on a extremely hot day. They will get off.

Is that the worst ever 'first post' on 2p2? I think it might well be.

Do you honestly not see the difference between those two things?

Your opinion with no explanation has been read. Can you explain yourself?

in the context of criminal actions taken during an active mass shooting? no. and neither would a court of law. you're on the ground cowering behind a car after seeing people die and gunshots raining down on you. there could be bands of ISIS militia moving around executing people and you think Dan is and idiot for going into the cop car looking for a shotgun? Lol. thats ridiculous. easy for you to armchair quarterback it. but at the time they have no idea what is going on someone could be around the corner coming to get you im sure thats what they felt like. the video is out there go ahead and turn it into the las vegas DA.

im gonna go so far as to say that Dan is smarter or at least not constrained by laws or conventions and did the smart thing to look for a gun in the cop car imo.

There were a gazillion cops at the scene. A civilian does not need to break in the car of a police officer to try to defend himself from gunfire coming from the 32nd floor. It would be one thing if all officers retreated or killed and he was the only one left to defend himself.

How can you even remotely compare the situation to one where emergency services are nowhere in sight and stealing a car is literally the only thing that can save a life.

You're missing the very big point of them not knowing where the gunshots were coming from/how many people were firing into the crowd.

Of course if you knew that the shots were coming from a very specific window then you just LoS it.

In the video you see him begging for a gun, running TOWARDS three cops that are GOING AWAY from the gunshots and trying to find cover. Also in the foreground you see lots of cop cars indicating danger.

Dan decides to run to where gunshots are coming from to join in on the action. He gets a "no ****ing way" from the officer. He says he actually came back to the ****ing field of fire after getting to the hospital.

He isn't trying to "save his life" or protect himself. He is trying to be a hero and after being rejected he steals a gun. What if the officer that owned the gun found himself in actual need of that gun only to find it is gone?

Are you really defending his actions? You cannot be serious.

A lot of crazy **** happens when 100s of bullets are flying around. Rationale goes out the window, you're intoxicated with very powerful chemicals during fight or flight.

This is the answer to the question I asked.

This is a bit of a meaningless statement or at the very least pure speculation.

This is not what the video depicts.

"There could be" has never been a strong defense against doing the wrong thing.

I asked a very simple question about if you thought the two things were equivalent. I did not mention DB or use the word idiot.

Quite easy since I apparently don't even have to say anything before you start putting words in my mouth.

A few moments earlier Dan had run away from the danger and got himself to a safe location. According to one interview he did he said some guy in a van recognized him and picked him up. The people in the van either had or picked up (I forget which) 2 wounded women and took them to the hospital. In other interviews he didn't mention the guy that picked him up and made it seem like he's the one that saved the women and brought them to the hospital. He had gotten himself out of harms way then he chose to go back without the gun he said he had in his car and instead proceeded to impede the police during an active crime by distracting them by begging for a gun and also by trying to steal their equipment.

Not too long ago there was video of a cop shooting and killing a passenger in a car who was reaching for his gun license. Trying to take a gun from a cop should be seen as not a wise decision. Some of the police radio chatter was warning cops to make sure they lock their cars because people were going into them. During a situation like this you don't want to be distracting the police with such nonesense.

DA's probably got other things to worry about now and I know I have. Most likely outcome is DB loses is parade cop badge. He said he even called the person he reported to and they told him to not go back with a gun.
It's a free country. You're free to think what you want. I think you're in the minority as most rational people would think most rational people would think in a situation like this you'd want to stay out of harms way if you manage to get out safely and then don't interfere with the people with the equipment and training that are trying to handle it. He did say he came back with food the next day and that was pretty good. He also did something similar in Texas. I have nothing against DB, I thought he was pretty cool way back when I first read his well before his instagram fame. This behavior however I don't think was appropriate.

just skimmed cuz you wrote so much

you act like they know or somehow should have known what was going on. what?

a court wouldn't care. in america you have 6th amendment rights. including right to a trial by jury. im not sure how many jurors you get in nevada but i think the minimum is 6 so that means all you would have to do is convince one person that DB actions were not criminal in intent. you're speculating is thin and ill informed and not well thought out.

you are probably actually afraid of police when they pull you over. like i bet you have some actual irrational fear they are going to shoot you for no reason. and you seem to live life in fear bubble based on your mentality of fear of being prosecuted for looking thru a cops car during a mass shooting. not even grabbing a shotgun or anything but just going inside the car. what are you afraid of??? put your fear aside and live your life like it isnt there. good luck.

This is and your last reply are good examples why you rub people on these forums the wrong way. You appear to have this need to put words into people's mouths and jump to wild conclusions out of nowhere. You go to such extremes it's a bit concerning and you should probably try to figure out why you feel the need to paint others in such an absurd light.

No I don't fear that every time a cop pulls me over I risk being shot. I do however have some african-american friends that get very nervous when pulled over which is understandable given recent events. In an active shooting circumstance if a cop shot a guy that went into his truck and grabbed a gun I would probably not vote to convict if I were on the jury.

if DB were on trial for criminal mischief or trespass or whatever the charge would be would you find him guilty? if so thats absolutely ridiculous.

lol

DB was in a safe place and chose to come back to what resembles an active warzone. DB asked if he could get a gun. He was told no. Stole one anyways from a police officer on duty who was actually fighting a murderer at the moment and might have needed that gun to save his and other lives.

You're going to say that's fine?

By the way do you have any idea what could have happened when he stole a gun out of a police car? He might be seen as a suspect since they did not know how many were firing. Getting close to the war zone with a gun that could be reported stolen while dozens of police officers are looking for gunmen brings his own life in jeopardy. Also he has a big beard so you know as well as I do that if there is any confusion he gets gunned down in a second. Police are trying to save lives; including lives of people who are actively trying to get themselves shot.

Maybe you should go back to his post that you "just skimmed cuz you wrote so much", and actually read it, as he addresses why he has an issue with what DB did.

If you can't be bothered to properly read someone's responses to you and instead choose to reply to what you thought he might have said, why are you even posting?

Let's see if RC can manage to read this entire post and respond to the excellent points made.

Yes. By letter of the law, he is guilty. That's all the jury is allowed to interpret.

so are the people who stole pickup trucks. you have no idea about what jury's are allowed to interpret apparently. ever hear of jury nullification?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jury_nullification

i have kelvis muted for a reason so im going to chose to not read his post. he deserves a ban from this site for insinuating my mother is a whore but you guys allow posts like that here. im sure the post is still up. but i got infracted. you are a bad mod and i dont care what you have to say.