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Coronavirus has caused the postponement of the WSOP 2020! (Coronavirus quarantine thread) Coronavirus has caused the postponement of the WSOP 2020! (Coronavirus quarantine thread)
View Poll Results: Will the Corona Virus will alter their plans to attend WSOP this Summer (if it's not canceled)
Never planned on attending.
177 32.48%
Definitely wont attend.
112 20.55%
Probably wont attend.
93 17.06%
Probably will attend.
71 13.03%
Definitely will attend.
92 16.88%

06-04-2020 , 01:24 PM
Live stream happening now from the Bellagio. Lots of media/patrons on the property according to the JacobslifeinVegas YouTube Channel. Jacob reported a few moments ago that only a limited amount of people are being allowed to enter a specific area at a time -- per health protocols.


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Separately, here is a June 4th article by Steve Ruddock via BettingUSA.

https://www.bettingusa.com/casinos-reopen-too-soon/

"Casinos Ignore Fauci’s Advice And Reopen On Their Timeline"

"One scroll through the pictures and videos coming out of these facilities makes it clear that many of these policies are poorly thought out, nor does the efficacy hold up to scrutiny..."

Last edited by dhubermex; 06-04-2020 at 01:35 PM.
06-04-2020 , 01:28 PM
wow.

I guess if covid is pretty much played out and behind us then party on garth..openings look great

if its not, then this won't end well.
06-04-2020 , 03:41 PM
South Point and the Orleans both have 10 games going, check out this wait list at the Orleans

06-04-2020 , 06:02 PM
Is there somewhere where I can bet on super-spreading, the great new contact sport that's really popular in Vegas?
06-04-2020 , 06:57 PM
The stock of publicly traded coffin manufacturers?

ICU bed manufactures?
06-04-2020 , 07:08 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ArtyMcFly
Is there somewhere where I can bet on super-spreading, the great new contact sport that's really popular in Vegas?
Short airlines

Go long on grocery stores
06-04-2020 , 07:09 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by PTLou
wow.

I guess if covid is pretty much played out and behind us then party on garth..openings look great

if its not, then this won't end well.
Brings a new context to "Your money or your life."
06-04-2020 , 07:16 PM
That is far more crowded than I expected.
06-04-2020 , 07:18 PM
06-04-2020 , 08:11 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by golfnutt
That is far more crowded than I expected.
same here.

I'm intrigued by all this. One way to segment market in Vegas is into Locals vs Tourists. Red Rock, Stations, Green Valley and other off strip mostly cater to locals. Bellagio, PH, Aria for example caters to tourist (Im talking overall casino, not just poker). Not sure where to put downtown casinos.

Since the casinos we are seeing here cater to Tourists, are these crowds locals who are piling into first casino open, or tourists who weeks ago booked a trip and wanted to be first one in Vegas casinos, both?

Maybe some "locals" with knowledge can shed some light on this.

Paging John Mehaffey,
06-04-2020 , 09:06 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by parisron
Holy Crap!

It's officially hopeless. Look at this there is no social distancing at all. Lots aren't wearing masks either. I mean this is ridiculous. I think at this point these casinos should just forget even putting restrictions and guidelines in place. They just want to make money, no effort to reinforce anything and in the end nobody seems to care. Just open it like before at this point smh.
06-04-2020 , 09:10 PM
In some of those casino videos, a lot of the plexiglass and other measures look pointless when people are all crowded together as if it was last year. Not sure if this is inconsistency from casino to casino, that none of them have implemented any kind of foot traffic procedures, or if they have and everyone's ignoring them.

As businesses reopen in the US, has it been pretty much a free-for-all, or do any of them implement measures to reduce numbers, route foot traffic a certain way, etc.?

Quote:
Originally Posted by EastCoastBalla
It's officially hopeless. Look at this there is no social distancing at all. Lots aren't wearing masks either. I mean this is ridiculous. I think at this point these casinos should just forget even putting restrictions and guidelines in place. They just want to make money, no effort to reinforce anything and in the end nobody seems to care. Just open it like before at this point smh.
Pretty much this.
06-04-2020 , 09:37 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by EastCoastBalla
It's officially hopeless. Look at this there is no social distancing at all. Lots aren't wearing masks either. I mean this is ridiculous. I think at this point these casinos should just forget even putting restrictions and guidelines in place. They just want to make money, no effort to reinforce anything and in the end nobody seems to care. Just open it like before at this point smh.

This is incredible. If they’re going to allow this, they might as well allow 9-handed poker.
06-04-2020 , 09:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by EastCoastBalla
It's officially hopeless. Look at this there is no social distancing at all. Lots aren't wearing masks either. I mean this is ridiculous. I think at this point these casinos should just forget even putting restrictions and guidelines in place. They just want to make money, no effort to reinforce anything and in the end nobody seems to care. Just open it like before at this point smh.
Exactly, remove all the restrictions. Go to any beach, park, riot of just outside in general and people is in groups all over the place, without masks for a month or so plus now. The Covid numbers keep going down despite all of that.

I've been trying to tell you all for months not to be as scared as the news makes it seem. You all kept telling me "nobody's going to risk it" "no live poker in 2020"

Full ring will be back within months, most likely without masks.

For freak sake, Sweden who went for herd immunity last week had a day with 0 deaths. They didn't even reach herd immunity. The virus is just petering out on it's own. Just like it has been in America.

Those same news stations that tricked you'll into hiding in your house for three months with 24/7 coverage (all fear mongering) suddenly can't find more then 10 minutes a day to talk about Covid with the riots happening. Higher ratings! Went from 24 hour coverage to nothing within a week with nothing about the virus changing at all. No vaccine


By no means was Corona Virus a hoax, but it was blown out of proportion tremendously. Lots of people died. Mostly the ones already on deaths door. Also some younger mixed in , I get it. But for guys to still worry about social distancing now after huge crowds have been gathering outdoors for months is just silly.
06-04-2020 , 09:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by golfnutt
This is incredible. If they’re going to allow this, they might as well allow 9-handed poker.
Exactly.

Between all the Memorial Day celebrations around the country and the protests and riots and now the Vegas re-opening, it will be interesting to see what the covid numbers will look like in 2-3 weeks.
06-04-2020 , 09:56 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by EastCoastBalla
It's officially hopeless. Look at this there is no social distancing at all. Lots aren't wearing masks either. I mean this is ridiculous. I think at this point these casinos should just forget even putting restrictions and guidelines in place. They just want to make money, no effort to reinforce anything and in the end nobody seems to care. Just open it like before at this point smh.
This “pandemic” is just political. There’s nothing indicating it’s nearly as bad as the scare.
.26% death rate? And of those that died what is it like 95% or more had existing conditions?

You’ll be fine. The media could make the flu this scary every year if they wanted.
06-04-2020 , 10:08 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by zrap
The Covid numbers keep going down despite all of that.
Not really. Just a couple days ago we had >30k new cases in a day for the first time in a month. The 7-day average has been increasing again for a couple of days now.

And if you look at death numbers, we’re still at around 1000 per day. Compare that to Germany with 25. 4 weeks ago, the projection was 135k death by early August. Now it looks like we might hit that number by early to mid July.

FWIW, those long lines in front of reopening casinos is not a Las Vegas thing. When Hollywood at Kansas Speedway reopened at 8AM on Memorial Day, they had a ridiculously long line and nobody was wearing a mask. Based on looks, that crowd wasn’t that heavy on college graduates though.
06-04-2020 , 10:09 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by zrap
Lots of people died. Mostly the ones already on deaths door. Also some younger mixed in
im trying to figure out what to type in response to your lunacy, but cant put it into words

your must be right, Since there are crowds of people at casinos and none of them dropped dead on site. all is good. 'rona is gone. it was all overblown by CNN

They had already ordered coffins for most of the 100,000 that died, all rona did is make them select 2-day shipping instead of ground.
06-04-2020 , 10:14 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by PTLou
im trying to figure out what to type in response to your lunacy, but cant put it into words

your must be right, Since there are crowds of people at casinos and none of them dropped dead on site. all is good. 'rona is gone. it was all overblown by CNN

They had already ordered coffins for most of the 100,000 that died, all rona did is make them select 2-day shipping instead of ground.
Exactly. Why even respond to a few of these ridiculous posts. Covid not as serious? All overblown? I mean I can't believe some come on here and still have that mindset. Those videos we watched today of the casinos being packed was disgraceful. IMO the casino executives will have blood on their hands because there is going to be a fair amount of hospitalizations and death. I'm very confident of that.
06-04-2020 , 10:27 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Carl Trooper
This “pandemic” is just political. There’s nothing indicating it’s nearly as bad as the scare.
.26% death rate? And of those that died what is it like 95% or more had existing conditions?

You’ll be fine. The media could make the flu this scary every year if they wanted.
How many flubro posts can you make?
06-04-2020 , 10:32 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by PTLou
same here.

I'm intrigued by all this. One way to segment market in Vegas is into Locals vs Tourists. Red Rock, Stations, Green Valley and other off strip mostly cater to locals. Bellagio, PH, Aria for example caters to tourist (Im talking overall casino, not just poker). Not sure where to put downtown casinos.

Since the casinos we are seeing here cater to Tourists, are these crowds locals who are piling into first casino open, or tourists who weeks ago booked a trip and wanted to be first one in Vegas casinos, both?

Maybe some "locals" with knowledge can shed some light on this.

Paging John Mehaffey,
Normally, I think downtown Las Vegas would be around 85/15 favoring tourists. Last night, it was probably the other way around. I was around many conversations that were clear it was mostly locals in the DTLV casinos first.

I don't think occupancy is as great as we're led to believe. Even with a casino open, there are often towers not open within it and the ones that are open only have up to 50% of the rooms in the inventory.

The weekend occupancy may get closer to 50%, but the weekdays are going to be horrendous. I get the sense DTLV casinos will go after locals, especially midweek. For example, Plaza is doubling any free play mailer Monday through Thursday. Four Queens and Binion's had an incredible bonus offer that seemed to mostly appeal to locals.
06-04-2020 , 10:58 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by zrap
<snip>
Those same news stations that tricked you'll into hiding in your house for three months with 24/7 coverage (all fear mongering)
<snip>
But for guys to still worry about social distancing now after huge crowds have been gathering outdoors for months is just silly.
Which is it? We've been hiding indoors for months or gathering in crowds for months?
06-04-2020 , 11:18 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by John Mehaffey
Normally, I think downtown Las Vegas would be around 85/15 favoring tourists. Last night, it was probably the other way around. I was around many conversations that were clear it was mostly locals in the DTLV casinos first.



I don't think occupancy is as great as we're led to believe. Even with a casino open, there are often towers not open within it and the ones that are open only have up to 50% of the rooms in the inventory.



The weekend occupancy may get closer to 50%, but the weekdays are going to be horrendous. I get the sense DTLV casinos will go after locals, especially midweek. For example, Plaza is doubling any free play mailer Monday through Thursday. Four Queens and Binion's had an incredible bonus offer that seemed to mostly appeal to locals.
Please elaborate on the Plaza doubling thing. Their own offers are doubled M-Th?
06-05-2020 , 12:12 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by AtomicLiquors
Which is it? We've been hiding indoors for months or gathering in crowds for months?

The ones who have been hiding in the house for months ... thats you guys posting here about how crazy it is people are out there without masks not social distancing. It's not just here, I realize there are many others that feel that way too, though less and less every day.

gathering in crowds.. that is everyone else , if you every venture outside on a day with nice weather, people are all over the place, less and less with masks, less and less social distancing

A couple weeks ago in this thread some of you were amazed at watching some police videos that they weren't wearing masks while arresting people and what not. Just this week during the riots in NYC (The Epicenter) there are lots of videos of the NYPD not wearing masks all talking right next to each other. Arresting protesters, neither wearing masks, not in fear of being face to face. These guys are on the front lines in the epicenter and are no longer fearful of Covid, that should tell you something.In April they were all scared, in June they know better.

Clarifications:

When I say the numbers keep going down. I'm not talking about total cases. The more people that get testing as it becomes more available the more total cases will show up. I'm talking about deaths, hospitalizations, lasting effects. All those numbers are dropping like bricks.

Regarding people on deaths door, probably sounded insensitive but the fact is something like 43% of total deaths are nursing home/assisted living. I've spent more time visiting these places the last few years with family members then I wish on anyone. Death is very common at these places, it's the final destination before death for the residents most of the time.

People are social distancing less, wearing mask less, using less hand sanitizer etc etc then there were 45 days ago and the numbers are going down, not up. There is no second wave right now. Maybe the higher temps help, maybe a second wave will come in November.

There will be outbreaks, just like there are flu outbreaks but a little worse. Especially in work places when around the same people all the time, just like other viruses, all of a sudden half the office is sick. As long at Covid keeps trending towards being less and less potent it's not that big of a deal. Just like everyone goes out during flu season they will go out with Covid .
06-05-2020 , 01:03 AM
LOL when flubros and other like minded people put the word pandemic in quotes, implying that covid-19 isn't really a pandemic. By definition it is certainly a pandemic.

Definition of pandemic (noun - can also be an adjective)
: an outbreak of a disease that occurs over a wide geographic area and affects an exceptionally high proportion of the population

6.4 million known cases, 380K deaths worldwide, including cases in almost every country, and every state in the USA qualifies covid-19 as a pandemic.

      
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