Well I don't have any sources other than common sense and I can pretty much deduce there isn't going to be any wsop this year. I don't think you need a source to figure that out. When many poker rooms aren't going to open for a long time if ever, when 4 max right now seems to be the new standard, um it's pretty obvious there isn't going to be a wsop.

The policies tend to be pretty consistent across states and seem to be based mainly on the advice of health experts, who seem to share a strong consensus on what is appropriate.

Poker presents a scenario where you can have large numbers of people packed into a small space. All early phases of reopening are generally trying to avoid that scenario from happening, especially indoors. It doesn't matter how many have previously died. What matters is what happens when an outbreak occurs and runs through a poker room's player pool. Depending on where you play, this population may be fatter and older than average and the results might not be pretty if you have an outbreak similar to some of these meatpacking plants.

I've gone through having a regular game that I occasionally played in stop running because too many players died. so there weren't enough core regulars to keep the game going. I have played in a few poker rooms where losing some OMC seat fillers could lead to the room having 1-2 fewer tables running. I already have concerns about how these rooms will fare as the population ages normally. COVID-19 just hastens the problem.

"However, she cited analysts who are predicting a slow growth pace in 2021 while saying it may take until 2023 for the gaming industry to return to pre-pandemic levels."

"Pending actions depend on when Gov. Steve Sisolak allows casinos to reopen.

“Many (casino) leaders were hopeful to be able to re-open and return employees mid-May and into early June; however, there was a halt on that plan, and it required them to quickly shift their business models and plans this last week, resulting in additional layoffs,” Virtuoso said."

“Operators and suppliers are prioritizing the work areas to re-open initially and the positions needed for each phase thereafter,” said Martinez, who advises both gaming and non-gaming clients. “For example, security and safety, housekeeping, and custodial workers following new procedures may return at the same staffing levels or higher, whereas positions such as event planner or buffet greeter may be hired back in a later phase.”"

Ya think ?

Hope the casinos trim back their cadre of consultants if this is the level of insight, advice and planning provided by some.

Perhaps, but the policies themselves are not internally consistent or coherent. Again... a ton of effort, print and hot air is going into disinfectant measures which matter significantly less than identification of infected persons and social distancing (from them). And even with the latter, the policies themselves don't make sense. 6ft on a beach is not the same thing as 6ft in a small, poorly ventilated room is not the same thing as 6ft in a large indoor area where air is circulated. And then, to take the cake, we are told (assumedly because of the "experts") its ok to be 2.5 ft away from somebody while you're playing blackjack, but its not ok to be 3 ft away from somebody while you're playing poker. This is the sort of nonsense really bugging me about the current state of affairs.

I'm not saying there is no distinction between people who know what they're talking about ("experts") and those who don't. But even people who know what they're talking about do not agree on a lot of things related to convid-19. The experts told the governor of NY to recommend everyone shelter at home. And now we find that a plurality of cases in NY are coming from people sheltering at home... not those going out into the world and being "exposed". So, can we not say that this "expert" advice was perhaps not the best possible advice? This doesn't mean experts should not be listened to. It just means what they say must be weighed with all sorts of other factors and we must always consider... what if they're wrong? That's the real job of our leaders and I'm afraid they're basically just doing CYA-type work instead of their jobs.

I feel like cash poker can find some reasonable level that is viable (from a poker-standpoint) and still just as safe as any other casino table-game activity. And if it is not safe to play poker, then it certainly isn't safe to be playing any table game in a casino... or sitting in a restaurant, or going back into an plant/office to work.

Tournaments are a different beast because they draw so many people at one time. They are more akin to a sporting event or a convention. And other than perhaps some sort of heads up event, I don't see tournaments coming back till large crowds are allowed. Whether its the WSOP, or a smaller event, I remain hopeful that this may occur at some point in 2020. My hope is based simply on what has been put forth by the CDC and others regarding the timeframe of the re-opening stages, and specifically large crowds. But all of that is obviously speculation and based on the reality at any given point in time. People can speculate however they like about when that will occur.

lol

so glad they care about our health and well-being

once you are ok'd through one of these you are free to blow your paycheck while smoking a cigarette sipping on your favorite alcoholic beverage cut with your desired GMO high fructose corn syrup filled soda

don't forget to hit the buffet on the way out and save room for dessert!

UUUmmmm, Okay, thanks for your permission.

They don't care about your health/well-being. They care about what their customers care about. Why should it be any different?

So what’s the odds wsop happens like sept -nov?

I’m there if it runs. I fear nothing.

0%

Lol at buffet greeter hired back at later phase. That must be Phase 42.

What are the odds of an effective vaccine being developed by August?

The question is if a WSOP will happen at all in 2021. That seems very challenging.

Before the pandemic, I was definitely planning on attending the WSOP next month, and probably playing 4-5 bracelet events. But there’s no way I can go in the fall, so I guess I don’t care too much anymore whether it’s cancelled.

Agree with you. I think the real question is will a large tournament series with tons of people hovering all over each other be feasible by the summer of 2021.

Wsop 2020 is history obv but as of now even a year away I seriously have my doubts 2021 Wsop will be able to take place.

The real question is will I still be able to stuff my face with nachos, lick my fingers, slurp my Diet Coke, belch and then check my hole cards?

Nope.

How high it is really depends on how firm the NV governor remains with the rules, and how creative WSOP organizers are.

Of course, if people are talking about a WSOP just like every other WSOP, with dozens of events and thousands of people playing live at the same time, 0% seems about right.

I don't think the NV governor has shown any inclination to be all of a sudden lenient with rules. So in all honesty I don't know how creative wsop organizers can really be here at this point. You can pretty much assume there won't be large gatherings allowed for at least the rest of the year, lots of casinos aren't reopening all at once and it's going to be a new normal for quite awhile. And poker is only allowed 4 handed. Even if by then it's up to 6, why would wsop organizers hold a series where you can't have full ring games?

Maybe an online wsop series with a few 4 and 6 max live tournaments mixed in could work. But with most experts believing a 2nd wave of covid19 will be back in the fall, as well as the amount of new restrictions that will be in place I say the chances of any wsop in 2020 is 0%. 2021 will be the burning question.

I guess they don't have any restrictions in Colorado, Maybe they will have big tournaments.

From what I understand, in-person dining is still not permitted in Colorado, and this particular restaurant was operating in open defiance of state orders.

I think there is a decent chance that a safe and effective vaccine will have been identified by August, at least on a preliminary basis.

But it is almost impossible that such a vaccine will be widely available to the public anywhere close to this date.

May 2021 is a completely different story. I would be pretty surprised if a vaccine were not almost universally available by then. My impression is that the news thus far on the vaccine front has been about as we could realistically expect it to be.

Actually, they do.

This.

https://www.denverpost.com/2020/05/1...s-coronavirus/

It's obviously great that various labs around the world are creating and trialing potential vaccines in order to produce them in record time. But one of the issues with vaccines is that to establish their lasting efficacy (and lack of negative side-effects), you need a great deal of time to elapse. e.g. You can't market a vaccine and say "This vaccine is proven to prevent infection with Covid-19 for the next 12 months" until you've done a trial for 12 months that showed hardly any of the volunteers caught the virus in that time period.
It's kind of a Catch-22 situation. If a vaccine is released soon, it won't have been proven to have a lasting effect. Similarly, to prove the vaccine has long-lasting protection with no lasting ill-effects, you'd have to have a long trial to gain that evidence.

yeah why should capitalism encourage anything other than sociopathic behavior, pffft