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02-16-2021 , 09:12 AM

#151

dont3betme

grinder

Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 686

He is streaming 500 so the bet is on? I would happily bet against him if not

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02-16-2021 , 10:18 AM

#152

Loff

centurion

Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 160

Charlie crushing 500z. The regs at 500z certainly respect his bets.

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02-16-2021 , 10:50 AM

#153

Masq

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 15,132

I'm not sure if the bet is actually on but he won this afternoon.

I don't think he's such a dog in this pool.

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02-16-2021 , 10:57 AM

#154

georgelboss

journeyman

Join Date: Dec 2013 Posts: 291

The bet is not yet on. I think this was just a warm up session. But he alluded in today's stream that the sample size for this prob bet is 25k hands. I might be wrong, but if this is true, I think 25k hands for 6max is not a representative sample.

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02-16-2021 , 11:01 AM

#155

Esa_Perse

banned

Join Date: Dec 2016 Posts: 1,850

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Originally Posted by georgelboss

I might be wrong, but if this is true, I think 25k hands for 6max is not a representative sample.

I think that's between Carrel and the person making the bet. Don't think they could care less what others think. Chat was pretty hilarious from time to time. I mean it's allways the most toxic place in the internets but the comments about sunruns etc were pretty funny. Must be painfull to see him actually being pretty comfortable and playong well. Most likely they were the 2+2 nvg posse.

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02-16-2021 , 11:17 AM

#156

Jarretman

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Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 2,939

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Originally Posted by georgelboss

Obviously 25k hands isn't even close to enough... you need at least 1mm hands sample at 500z to even be considered imo (and even in 1mm hand samples you'll see serious deviation between two players both winning at 2bb-5bb/100).

The point is that an expected winning player has a higher chance of winning over 25k hands than an expected losing player so one of the people has the "better side" of the bet, even though it's a super high variance bet.

FWIW I like Charlie's side if he's allowed to pool select whenever he wants. If I wasn't going to be playing during that time I would book action on it!

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02-16-2021 , 01:51 PM

#157

Joe-exotic69

old hand

Join Date: Apr 2020 Posts: 1,464

2p2 is funny

“Charlie cant beat 500z, no way”

Charlie wins one session
“Wow if Charlie game selects well, he can easily win this bet”

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02-16-2021 , 02:01 PM

#158

TreadLightly

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 3,722

MMA on stream today said after he reviewed charlie on stream he got a long message from him about it and charlie said it was what prompted the bet; MMA said he replied offering a bet but has not heard back (yet)

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02-16-2021 , 02:27 PM

#159

Masq

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 15,132

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Originally Posted by Joe-exotic69

2p2 is funny

“Charlie cant beat 500z, no way”

Charlie wins one session
“Wow if Charlie game selects well, he can easily win this bet”

Tbh i've thought all along he has a chance (and commented here earlier). I've watched him play 100z recently + he's obviously a successful player. He may not be as big a dog in this as some people make him out to be in my opinion.

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02-16-2021 , 02:28 PM

#160

TPeck

journeyman

Join Date: Jun 2020 Posts: 332

From my understanding Charlie currently has a balance of 100k+ on Stars all from a 5 euro deposit at the start of the pandemic mostly from zoom? Is he shooting fish in a barrel here what am I missing?

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02-16-2021 , 02:33 PM

#161

Hellkid13

banned

Join Date: Jan 2021 Posts: 35

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Originally Posted by Z06Fanatic1

Charlie seems very insecure - maybe seek a therapist if you think or care what others are saying about you. It's funny George replies with an actual bet and Charlie is whining away avoiding responding

Na He always had like 100k+ Balance. He just never withdraw I guess

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02-16-2021 , 02:46 PM

#162

jayme87

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 3,646

25k hands is not representative of any meaningful sample.

100k hands or even more would be a better representation.

Playing 100k hands over a select period of time would be for much more meaningful. Anyone betting over a 25k hand sample are just throwing there dongers/egos about

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02-16-2021 , 02:49 PM

#163

jayme87

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 3,646

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Originally Posted by Jarretman

25k hands with no timeframe is no test on mental stamina imo which is a huge part of being a winner online

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02-16-2021 , 03:02 PM

#164

icoon

adept

Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 746

wouldnt bet against him here, he will either beat it or find a way to cheat

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02-16-2021 , 03:17 PM

#165

Loff

centurion

Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 160

Charlie Caramel just raidquit after losing a stack. This will be a long lasting challenge without a timelimit..

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02-16-2021 , 04:20 PM

#166

Jarretman

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Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 2,939

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Originally Posted by jayme87

25k hands with no timeframe is no test on mental stamina imo which is a huge part of being a winner online

well duh this bet really isnt a true indication if he's a winning 500z player... he has the better side of the bet imo with no timeframe, can play 1 table, and can pool select.

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02-16-2021 , 09:00 PM

#167

Bobo Fett

Carpe Diem

Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 57,426

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Originally Posted by Joe-exotic69

2p2 is funny

“Charlie cant beat 500z, no way”

Charlie wins one session
“Wow if Charlie game selects well, he can easily win this bet”

Not as funny as people who think one or two posters = 2p2. Amazing though you may find it, this forum isn't a hive mind.

And that's ignoring the fact that there was nothing remotely close to a consensus either way before he played. Appears to be a majority against him winning, but not even close to it being "2p2".

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02-16-2021 , 09:43 PM

#168

MultiTabling

old hand

Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 1,849

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Originally Posted by dont3betme

He is streaming 500 so the bet is on? I would happily bet against him if not

Do you know what his twitch name is and what time he streams?

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02-17-2021 , 05:15 AM

#169

Masq

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 15,132

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Originally Posted by MultiTabling

Do you know what his twitch name is and what time he streams?

Epiphany77

Don't think he has a schedule as such but he's UK based. Sometimes he pops up around midday (UK time) or he will be on in afternoons / evenings. It's a bit sporadic.

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02-17-2021 , 12:59 PM

#170

BRm34eva

adept

Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 968

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Originally Posted by MultiTabling

Do you know what his twitch name is and what time he streams?

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Originally Posted by Masq

Epiphany77

Don't think he has a schedule as such but he's UK based. Sometimes he pops up around midday (UK time) or he will be on in afternoons / evenings. It's a bit sporadic.