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Borgata finds counterfeit 5k chips in WPO #1-Cncls event-Arrest made-Lawsuit filed-*RULING OUT* Borgata finds counterfeit 5k chips in WPO #1-Cncls event-Arrest made-Lawsuit filed-*RULING OUT*

01-24-2014 , 01:01 AM
No.... nobody looking for attention. Some of it may not come out in court proceedings. Someone may be in jeopardy of harm if the facts came out in state court. I am waiting until Monday because I am trying to arrange bond etc. They are throwing harsh charges and very high bond. Plus I may not be going anywhere for a while. Getting some affairs in order. I'm sorry that it is confusing and frustrating. That is simply all I can say for now. Don't make accusations of who you think it was intended for as you will all be wrong. My reason for even posting was simply to let everyone know that this will end Monday as far as the criminal aspect. As far as refunds and such I would think Borgata will do the right thing. That's all for now. The only other thing I can mention is once I found out the chips made it into play, I flushed the rest down the toilet. Why the toilet? I don't know. If Harrah's had better plumbing I may not be posting this right now. Gotta go.
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01-24-2014 , 01:03 AM
OceanSpray25, is that you? How'd you bust out of prison?

Seriously, if you're for real, obv. you haven't consulted a lawyer, or he or she would have told you to STFU and to not poast. Maybe you ought to seek out a lawyer before you make a bad mistake worse.
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01-24-2014 , 01:03 AM
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Originally Posted by doublejoker
Really complex situation.say one of final 27 bought in four times. Are they going to get back an extra $560x3?

Men said he bought in 6 times but they only had a record of 2 - does that mean he bought in from a counterfeit cashier? Too bad he didn't get any money out yet - frozen.
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01-24-2014 , 01:04 AM
If your turning yourself in as guilty for everything then just write one big tell all who cares if your gonna admit to everything anyway. at least make this thread explode
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01-24-2014 , 01:05 AM
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Originally Posted by e1cnr
Men said he bought in 6 times but they only had a record of 2 - does that mean he bought in from a counterfeit cashier? Too bad he didn't get any money out yet - frozen.
As long as he went to the cage that night he was able to collect his ~6500 payout
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01-24-2014 , 01:05 AM
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Originally Posted by <"))))><
Speak for yourself because I don't prefer tarred and feathered thought
yes, yes, thank you.
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01-24-2014 , 01:09 AM
IP check him and see where he is posting from. assuming if hes turning himself in he cant be far from AC
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01-24-2014 , 01:14 AM
Anyone who believes this shmuck is actually one of the perps is delusional. Why would he care about 2+2 enough to create an account and then give us some ambiguous story?
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01-24-2014 , 01:15 AM
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Originally Posted by justbecauseican
No....go.
All filler no facts from this guy!
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01-24-2014 , 01:24 AM
justbecauseican's posts remind me of those scam emails on Craigslist from people living in Africa.
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01-24-2014 , 01:25 AM
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Originally Posted by ohsnapzach
If anyone is interested in buying a bridge let me know
Chris Christie is selling that bridge so it can't be yours
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01-24-2014 , 01:29 AM
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Originally Posted by FRYTWO
Anyone who believes this shmuck is actually one of the perps is delusional. Why would he care about 2+2 enough to create an account and then give us some ambiguous story?
Because this schmuck wants the poker community to know I did not personally cheat. Yes I have retained a lawyer. There is not much to hide. I care because if I were sitting wondering what the heck happened, I would want some info asap. My only point was for everyone to know that Monday I will be formally arrested and charged. I will accept the charges, do my punishment, and move on. Believe me or not. I don't care.
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01-24-2014 , 01:31 AM
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Originally Posted by FRYTWO
Anyone who believes this shmuck is actually one of the perps is delusional. Why would he care about 2+2 enough to create an account and then give us some ambiguous story?
I'll go out on a limb and say I believe him.
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01-24-2014 , 01:31 AM
Fake.
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01-24-2014 , 01:33 AM
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Originally Posted by justbecauseican
No.... nobody looking for attention. Some of it may not come out in court proceedings. Someone may be in jeopardy of harm if the facts came out in state court. I am waiting until Monday because I am trying to arrange bond etc. They are throwing harsh charges and very high bond. Plus I may not be going anywhere for a while. Getting some affairs in order. I'm sorry that it is confusing and frustrating. That is simply all I can say for now. Don't make accusations of who you think it was intended for as you will all be wrong. My reason for even posting was simply to let everyone know that this will end Monday as far as the criminal aspect. As far as refunds and such I would think Borgata will do the right thing. That's all for now. The only other thing I can mention is once I found out the chips made it into play, I flushed the rest down the toilet. Why the toilet? I don't know. If Harrah's had better plumbing I may not be posting this right now. Gotta go.
Mr. (or Ms.) becauseyoucan:

Maybe this is just me, but if I were at the poker table and an opponent was trying to sell a hand to me with a yarn like this, I would be highly suspicious of a bluff. I would "call" this bluff mostly because it sounds too ludicrous to be true. I suppose we'll know by midnight Monday how good my bluff catcher is working. (I can't believe anybody who has had prior history with lawyers and the criminal justice system would expose themselves to further jeopardy by "going public" on a forum like this with what amounts to a virtual confession.) I think somebody is pulling our leg ...

If this was a "set up" that went haywire, it will be all over the national news. Whatever the case, I'll be sure to be watching this thread all day Monday. (The touch about flushing chips down Harrah's toilet is first rate. That flourish is what will get this caper on all the TV networks. Touche!)
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01-24-2014 , 01:35 AM
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Originally Posted by justbecauseican
Because this schmuck wants the poker community to know I did not personally cheat. Yes I have retained a lawyer. There is not much to hide. I care because if I were sitting wondering what the heck happened, I would want some info asap. My only point was for everyone to know that Monday I will be formally arrested and charged. I will accept the charges, do my punishment, and move on. Believe me or not. I don't care.
Well you keep responding so you obv do care? You cant just come on here being a new member and post without a shred of proof or more insight? For instance what days were chips introduced ,how many were involved , etc. Do you have any pictures of chips? What was the purpose of the scheme?
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01-24-2014 , 01:40 AM
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Originally Posted by justbecauseican
Because this schmuck wants the poker community to know I did not personally cheat. Yes I have retained a lawyer. There is not much to hide. I care because if I were sitting wondering what the heck happened, I would want some info asap. My only point was for everyone to know that Monday I will be formally arrested and charged. I will accept the charges, do my punishment, and move on. Believe me or not. I don't care.
Pin a yellow carnation on your lapel when you do your perp walk so we know it's you.
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01-24-2014 , 01:47 AM
He's gotta be lying.

So he stole chips but he never was the one who introduced them into the tournament??

Has to be a cheating ring and he's just taking the bullets for the team since they can't figure out who else is involved
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01-24-2014 , 01:50 AM
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Originally Posted by justbecauseican
Because this schmuck wants the poker community to know I did not personally cheat. Yes I have retained a lawyer. There is not much to hide. I care because if I were sitting wondering what the heck happened, I would want some info asap. My only point was for everyone to know that Monday I will be formally arrested and charged. I will accept the charges, do my punishment, and move on. Believe me or not. I don't care.
Please write a check to me or send cash for 1680$ and I'll buy your book after that.
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01-24-2014 , 01:53 AM
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Originally Posted by aggo
He's gotta be lying.

So he stole chips but he never was the one who introduced them into the tournament??

Has to be a cheating ring and he's just taking the bullets for the team since they can't figure out who else is involved
Well he signed off so thats it folks. At least the Bellagio Biker Bandit posted pics
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01-24-2014 , 01:59 AM
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Originally Posted by aggo
He's gotta be lying.

So he stole chips but he never was the one who introduced them into the tournament??

Has to be a cheating ring and he's just taking the bullets for the team since they can't figure out who else is involved
OK, we might as well have some fun with this ... Somebody start a poll with two options. The poll question will be something like: "Is 'yesbecauseican' telling the truth?" or "Will 'yesbecauseican' be arrested on Monday?" (or maybe: "Is 'yesbecauseican' full of it?") Cutoff for voting in this poll will be 6:00 A.M. New Jersey time Monday morning.
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01-24-2014 , 01:59 AM
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Originally Posted by pokervangelist
Well he signed off so thats it folks. At least the Bellagio Biker Bandit posted pics
Link?


I believe this poster simply because I don't believe anyone who was not involved would be brazen enough to post a false confession. I appreciate you coming forward with some information. I'm sure you know how closely the entire poker community is watching this story unfold and if you are(were) a serious poker player you probably understand how eager we all are to hear what actually happened.

I'll be without internet for a week starting Saturday though...so anyway you can post your tell all tomorrow?
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01-24-2014 , 02:00 AM
Don't take the fall for your buddies let all the cheaters be exposed and you for making the chips it sounds.
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01-24-2014 , 02:29 AM
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Originally Posted by justbecauseican
Ok time some facts .
An arrest will be made Monday. Or I should say the responsible party will be turning themselves in on Monday.
There was NO inside involvement. This will be extremely bizarre as the reasons are complicated. There was never supposed to be extra chips added. It was more of a "set someone up" kinda thing. Any avid poker player knows its impossible to put 200 plus extra chips in play. If so the other 5 million would have been added too. What happened is some of the chips were "stolen" and put in play by probably several people. There are reasons and explanations that simply can't be revealed. Someday maybe? But the of the matter is this was NOT supposed to have happened. The state will be pressing the steepest charges they can by law. After all someone has to take the blame and punishment. I can tell you that the person responsible is at a loss for words at the mess. It is unforgivable, and for many never forgotten. One day the exact story shall prevail. Some time in jail will allow plenty of time for writing a book perhaps. Who knows.
Post your initials, then. We'll see if they align with the name you say is going to be all over the news on Monday.
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01-24-2014 , 02:30 AM
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Originally Posted by justbecauseican
Because this schmuck wants the poker community to know I did not personally cheat. Yes I have retained a lawyer. There is not much to hide. I care because if I were sitting wondering what the heck happened, I would want some info asap. My only point was for everyone to know that Monday I will be formally arrested and charged. I will accept the charges, do my punishment, and move on. Believe me or not. I don't care.
I may sound dumb, but he seems like he may be the legit ringleader . The reason I say this is... he is really just trying to plead guilty to a lesser charge on 2+2 because he has had a week to work on his story and he knows the NJDGE will read this whole thread. He may be a well known person with good reputation.

So the flushing was his real immediate action...locked himself in his hotel room with fear that the heat was on and he was caught and if he unlatched the lock , they were waiting outside his room or as soon as he hit the lobby. One of the first rumors we all heard was the counterfeit chips flushed down the toilet at Harrahs, clogging up the hotel pipes. I'm pretty sure this was a true event, although not confirmed by anyone official yet.

So now he's had a week to concoct a "oh i had 7 million in replica borgata chips in my room we were playing poker with in the room and some of my friends stole them from me and must have used them without me knowing "..."i made fake replicas for my own personal use yes, but they were stolen from me and i did not introduce them into BWOe1 but my friends might have"...

This is why he came on here to take the shock value out of his excuse/alibi when it really does hit the news when he turns himself in, possibly Monday. He will take all the heat, while still claiming responsibility AND innocence/stupidity all at the same time.

What looks worse? Some "play stupid" "i was robbed for my fake chips" "it was an accident" lie or someone coming right out and saying "yea mofo's I just tried scamming you all...ya got me, F off now"
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