For day 1a there was a printout for seat assignments and chips.

What are they doing differently now to ensure this isnt happening in any other BWO tournaments? They're using the same chips

OK, I'm a "lobbying organization" too - and I'm lobbying my elected representatives not to legalize internet poker in the United States until such time as the gaming industry cracks down hard on poker cheats. Cracking down hard means identifying cheaters, barring them from playing in licensed (government-sanctioned) poker rooms, arresting and prosecuting offenders, and sending them to prison. Poker cheats are no different than bank robbers or thiefs who rob convenience stores at gunpoint - they just use a different weapon to commit their crimes. As long as the gaming industry looks the other way and coddles these a**holes - refusing to go after them and protect the honest players - there's no point in giving them another playground (i.e. internet poker) where they can let these scum run wild.

If the PPA and the AGA want internet poker legalized in the United States, the first thing they have to do is clean up the cesspool of cheating and corruption in their B&M poker rooms. They don't have to be a "police force" to achieve that goal. (They alreay do a fairly good job of keeping the blackjack cheats at bay.) They simply have to demonstrate they have the will to clean up the game and keep out the cheaters. Actions speak louder than words.

I got these chips as my re-entry in Day 1C.

They looked brand new, never used before. Tab handed them to me personally. I think some of these conspiracy theories are getting out of control. No way they were fake.

Here is a pic.

At the end of the day, they'll color up some grey stacks to gold chips to ensure enough chips for the next day 1's. So it's possible that these fake chips made it from day 1a into a day 1b starting stack. Given the picture above, seems unlikely you'd get 3 of the fake chips, so that sort of proves an older grey chip, a newer lighter grey chip, and still yet to see any confirmed images of a counterfeit.

Yea thats what I said a little back. The chips seemed to be crisper and newer like they were either introduced the first time this tournament or in a recent one. You can see in the pic above that they look sharper.

But if new chips were being planned to be used, maybe someone leaked that info or helped with the process since there would be an excuse or 'gray area' when it comes to funny looking chips and people (like I did) just assumed they were new.

I dont think this is right for day 1s. I had 265k at the end of day 1a and was good for 11th/200 or so. I didnt get any of the gold chips. The kid at my table had 350k and got 2nd for the day and no gold chips were given to him.

They did however consolidate some of the orange(1k) and purple(500) while coloring up the black(100) by giving us more gray chips, so our bags wouldnt be so heavy and loaded with chips.

I was there for event 8 and they were using blue 5k chips. Smaller than the other chips. I think they were from the daily tournaments.

I had 628k in fall 1a and was colored up with 6 gold chips.

That's reading a lot into a blurry pic. I think I could spray paint without filling the canes.

Again, blurry photo, with Borgata intentionally blurred out , and no, security cams can't pick up on this.

Bingo!! I had not considered this. I'm so twentieth century. This is a potential game changer in my mind.

Yeah there were Old ones, new ones and "fake" ones supposedly those don't look as bright as the ones i received as an alternate on day 1c

which i don't believe was the same as reentry, even though we were being processed at the same time, they weren't putting alternates in random seats as people busted, like reentries. they would wait til a full table of 10 clears, call 10 alternates, all 10 would sit at the same table then it was broken a few hands later and spread throughout the room.

These look to be new (newish) Paulson metallic silver chips. From this pic, totally legit IMO. Compare these to the "spray painted" looking chip from previous pic.

When I re entered I joked to Tab that I really needed a luckier table, and he told me that he could do me one better and give me spanking new shiny chips, and gave me the same rack as in that pic....I joked that those were probably just made in the back hahahaha.

They never got the 5000 runners in event 1 of September Borgata Poker Open, as it only had 2 starting days, and hundreds of people were left in line without a seat, which is why I think these chips looked so new.

did he lol, cause that was a hell of a joke...

i'm still pretty much waiting to see someone arrested and all the talk about the chips is making my head spin but...
somehow i forgot about this conversation: a few hours after the tourney was cancelled a guy told me it was his friend who got the ball rolling with looking at cheating when late in day 2 he saw a player with a big stack of the metallic chips with none of the dull grey 5K chips mixed in. the guy told me his friend called the floor over and alerted them to this. this would sort of make sense, one of the cheaters no longer sliding a few chips in at a time, with a healthy stack decides to put 20-30 of them into play at once during a table break. i dunno. if at this point everyone had one or two of the bogus (or new?) chips and one guy had a big stack of them this would certainly get people wondering. of course, if there were no counterfeit chips just new chips illegally brought into play then...well, i'll let someone else take it from here

Which one of the final 27 was this friend playing with?

didnt get a name. probably why i didn't pay much attention. I'm pretty sure they started introducing the 25k chips when there were well over a 100 players left so i dont know when the last time there would be a chance for someone to get a 100k stack of grey chips during color up

Not sure what the right word is but 'ballsy', or 'ret arded' are a few that come to mind if this is they way someone chose to introduce the fakes.

it'll be funny if somehow this was all a color up fiasco....hours of our life we'll never get back

i still haven't ruled this out....

I'm in roughly the same boat (which is why I kept asking players when and how they first noticed the suspicious chips), but ChipKatcher makes a good point above — if Borgata's staff could have explained this away as a color-up error, they would have. Between the DGE's involvement, the 24-hour investigation, the PR brouhaha this inevitably would (and did) cause, I consider it highly unlikely this was an erroneous color-up.

Edit: oops, almost forgot... thank you, mtl, for your expertise on Paulson chips. I didn't realize they had such a weight discrepancy. I keep a couple stacks of Paulsons on my desk (and yes, my riffling throughout the day HAS annoyed a co-worker or two). They always struck me as being similar in weight but I guess that might be because they're of the same type.

DGE: Hey, heard you had a tournament with some suspect chips.
Borgata: That's what all the fish are saying.
DGE: Could it be a color up issue?
Borgata: Not sure, but apparently we have THREE different 5k chips in play!
DGE: Yea, easy mistake, IMO. Probably a color up issue. Why don't we cancel the event, you issue a statement the tournament was compromised, give you a lot of bad press, and hold over 2 milly in trust over this color up problem?
Borgata: Deal.

Let's be perfectly clear, everyone. This is not a color up mistake. If it were, there would be no counterfeit chips in play. The release said there were a "significant number of counterfeit chips."

Unless you think that the Borgata and NJDGE cannot tell the difference between real and counterfeit chips, this was NOT a color up error.

There's a lot more money at stake if it were a color up problem. So that's outbofbthe question you can do lawsuits 27x1sr place money. That opportunity was taken away your looking at a 9.5 million dollar lawsuit then.