Any comment about the situation, even if its no comments or updates, apologies is better than a tweet about football..

SIAP, but if the top 27 are just SOL and looking at a flat entry refund, there is something really disconcerting about the notion that the guy that busted 28th and got paid at the cage before the problem was detected stands to win the most.

As a former prosecutor with the State of NJ, i can tell you that there will be nothing forthcoming of any substance until the DGE investigation is over and arrests have been made. As far as Tab running his mouth on twitter about football, he should shut his pie hole until this has been resolved.

If adding counterfeit chips during a table change is a concern, then I have an idea. Its probably a bit time consuming, but in a high buyin deep structured event, may not be too horrible.

Why not just attach a casino approved (with a logo etc) sticky note to the seat cards which contains their chip count. When the floor comes to break a table, he counts half the players stacks and issues the notes. The dealer counts the other half. New players arrive at their new tables and the dealers verify the number contained on the sticky note.

This might be especially necessary in a tourney where players are going from one room to another.

People faking chips probably also up for faking sticky notes, too (though might be seen more easily by cameras).

I hate how a few bad apples can ruin the experience for so many. And cause so much distrust when overwhelmingly number of people wouldn't cheat. No different than terrorism...

If the rumor that was posted here earlier is correct, (i.e. that Borgata and the New Jersey Division of Gaming Enforcement have narrowed it down to a list of six suspects with Men being one of them), I suspect they'll arrest them all - with the possible exception of Men himself - and confront all the "horses" with a mountain of evidence and charges. Then they'll make an offer: The first one to talk gets the best deal. The big fish in this operation is "The Master" - they're going to try and send him away for a long time and make an example out of him. (This caper will probably wind up being featured on "American Greed" on CNBC. They've already done an episode about a ring of brazen blackjack cheats. With Men's colorful history, I don't think they'll be able to resist this one ...)

This calamity should teach the casinos not to let a "recognized pro" they catch red-handed with tournament chips laying on his bed in his hotel room off with a one year slap on the wrist. I suppose if Men gets tried and convicted and sent up the river, he can start a new career when he gets out of the clink - teaching amateur poker cheats how to hone their skills.

If it's the gaming commission investigating, why does it matter what Tab is doing? Sure, he's the tournament director, but as far as I see this is out of his hands.

I swear I saw two posts endorsing the sticky note idea, but now they've disappeared. Creepy. That's right.

for some reason i am 99% Men the master is not involved...

another variation on this would be to use preprinted bags sealed with a tamper proof security tape to be used between table moves and end of days play. Only dealers or floor staff allowed to seal and open the chip bags.

The bags and special tape would have to be controlled and accounted for on some schedule checks.

I thought I replied to this, but I must have hit preview or something. They could use letterhead and rotate the color of the paper by day, or even by time of day. Business cards would work well, and be tougher to fake because you could have different colors and some with a matte finish and some glossy. They could then also use a stamp, like a notary. They could have a few logos and rotate ink color and logo. Finally, the floor/TD could initial it. That's a lot of variables to fake.

Combine that with an escort when the table change involves walking from the poker room to the event center (perhaps the dealer who is now finished dealing), and almost all opportunity to cheat during a table change is removed.

Yes, those were mine. What happened to them? I thought I was losing my mind or just hit preview on them. No PMs from mods or anything, either. I re-posted the same ideas...

Escorts? In Atlantic City?

Oh, I see. Never mind.

Damn cheaters have commandeered the computer at mod's house. Hate that.

Magic

This chip wasn't sparkly at all. It was almost chrome looking. I saw the freshly cut sparkly ones. This wasn't it. It stood out like a silver quarter in a handful of pennies. It was lot lighter, I know because Luis Guittierez held it up against other chips with his eyes closed and could pick it out. Makes me wonder why after I posted the picture why I got trolled pretty hard by one individual who was irate of me posting this picture. His name was joseph mojo Conti from what I read up. I've informed tab, who I won the pot off of, the troll (mojo) and what time I took the photo. God speed to my buddy big nick who is currently 2nd in chips!

you don't have anything close to a 1% shot

If there are 4800 entrants, and assuming 480 were to get paid, who did better, the guy who busted 480th and doubled his entry fee, or the guy who sat with the chip lead with 27 left and for whom one outcome is just getting the entry fee back?

How does catching the scumbags and prosecuting them affect what they will do with the money and the payouts? I guess they are waiting to confirm if any of them are in the final 27 and I'm sure the Borgata and it's owners have many lawyers advising them of what to do. I would think some of the 27 have retained counsel already as well (I know I would) and wondering what they are telling the 27 at this point.
anyone know?
opinions?

lol

Borgata can't do anything right now. It's out of their hands and in the hands of law enforcement. Until the investigation is over nothing is going to happen as far as a decision/resolution regarding an end result with the tournament. There is absolutely nothing any lawyer can do at this early stage on behalf of any of the players. I'm a retired State prosecutor and that's my take on things.

thanks...I'm just wondering what the process is gonna be. what's your take on the money/payouts/refunds?

That decision will probably be made by the Casino Control Commission and the Borgata, not law enforcement. As far as what they decide, your guess is as good as mine.

I think a lawyer could petition for Borgata to provide 27th place money to all of the remaining players. Seems totally arbitrary that the tournament is over and hundreds have been paid except those who remained alive in the tourney. Take a bit more time to determine the ultimate payouts, but they should get some money now. Some cheaters have likely been paid already. Any among the final 27 will need that money for attorney's fees. Ha. (It could be seized from them later)