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Borgata finds counterfeit 5k chips in WPO #1-Cncls event-Arrest made-Lawsuit filed-*RULING OUT* Borgata finds counterfeit 5k chips in WPO #1-Cncls event-Arrest made-Lawsuit filed-*RULING OUT*

02-01-2014 , 03:08 AM
I only heard reports of how many fake chips we found. I didn't hear how many extra compared to that I've tournament and total chip counts.
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02-01-2014 , 03:33 AM
Looked up his house on Google maps. Beautiful home. Don't know if he still owns it. It was on the arrest article referenced earlier.
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02-01-2014 , 05:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Edgelooker1
Just curious if the people arrested with Lusardi in 2008 are also playing at the Borgata.

Shaheim has 6 cashes there, 5 since March 2013.

Anyone know if Shaheim played in this Borgata Winter Open Tournament also? Is there a public official entry list?

Not sure if allowed to post link (mods pls remove if not) http://www.pokerpages.com/player-pro...m-sheridan.htm
I think its a little unfair to immediately put people who played in underground games down as cheats. Some places do not (or did not have at the time) have access to legal poker rooms and therefore underground poker rooms are an only option left.
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02-01-2014 , 05:40 AM
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Originally Posted by AALegend
I think its a little unfair to immediately put people who played in underground games down as cheats. Some places do not (or did not have at the time) have access to legal poker rooms and therefore underground poker rooms are an only option left.
I agree, not labeling anyone a cheat. Just curious if any of Lusardi's friends/acquaintances from his past bust just happen to be playing in this tourney.
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02-01-2014 , 07:08 AM
Doesn't seem particularly hard to introduce 200 5k chips into play given how long Lusardi was in the tournament. Some hours into the tournament any table change is going to give him the chance to introduce a bunch, especially since he was probably losing some fake chips and winning some real ones. The more chips he has, the easier to throw more fake ones in. I mean, look at the pic of the guy's stack posted in this thread, there's a lot of fake chips in there, he's not exactly subtle or smart. Easily could have acted alone.
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02-01-2014 , 07:28 AM
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Originally Posted by AALegend
I think its a little unfair to immediately put people who played in underground games down as cheats. Some places do not (or did not have at the time) have access to legal poker rooms and therefore underground poker rooms are an only option left.
This
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02-01-2014 , 09:04 AM
Looks like controversy finds The Borgata from nowhere !!!

When you have a bad day. You have a bad day.

A Player who was accused of stealing/taking whole chip stack of another player who had left the table during dinner brake, won the Borgata Open Main Event.

Not saying he did it on purpose or accidentally but fitting ending to a controversial Poker Event !!

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/29...rgata-1412143/
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02-01-2014 , 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by riverph7
Looks like controversy finds The Borgata from nowhere !!!

When you have a bad day. You have a bad day.

A Player who was accused of stealing/taking whole chip stack of another player who had left the table during dinner brake, won the Borgata Open Main Event.

Not saying he did it on purpose or accidentally but fitting ending to a controversial Poker Event !!

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/29...rgata-1412143/
wow a fitting Act III to this Shakespearean tragedy.

Final Act will include additional arrests, and resolution for players

Will any good come from all of this, or back to business as usual ?
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02-01-2014 , 11:53 AM
Hey, Can we get an Over/Under on how many people who played in this tournament have been arrested for running an illegal gambling/poker house?
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02-01-2014 , 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Edgelooker1
Hey, Can we get an Over/Under on how many people who played in this tournament have been arrested for running an illegal gambling/poker house?
I played in it and I've got a crime record longer than Manute Bol.
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02-01-2014 , 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by riverph7
Looks like controversy finds The Borgata from nowhere !!!

When you have a bad day. You have a bad day.

A Player who was accused of stealing/taking whole chip stack of another player who had left the table during dinner brake, won the Borgata Open Main Event.

Not saying he did it on purpose or accidentally but fitting ending to a controversial Poker Event !!

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/29...rgata-1412143/
The Guy who raked the chips actually won the tournament!!
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02-01-2014 , 01:24 PM
any guesses on how long this will take now that tourney is over
not unless waiting for enough people to complain
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02-01-2014 , 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by GutZ
Do you think that a board with 4 four to the flush or a 4 flush should be called a Lusardi?

(Seahawks 23 Broncos 17)
i like it. i think it should actually be "lusardi" when you bluff a missed flush draw and get called. you tried to win with your broken flush and got caught!

me: (big river bet)
opponent: (makes call)
me: i got a lusardi
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02-01-2014 , 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by 85chickasaw
i like it. i think it should actually be "lusardi" when you bluff a missed flush draw and get called. you tried to win with your broken flush and got caught!

me: (big river bet)
opponent: (makes call)
me: i got a lusardi
I personally think every time his name is mentioned in any fashion, he is getting more notoriety than he deserves. I think the name should be added to the list of words that George Carlin developed and if used in any poker room would be grounds for removal!!
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02-01-2014 , 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by roller000
any guesses on how long this will take now that tourney is over
not unless waiting for enough people to complain
Just probably depends on how long the investigation takes. The state investigators are in change and the prize pool is frozen. They are likely trying to make sure that anyone involved does not get paid.
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02-01-2014 , 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by 85chickasaw
i like it. i think it should actually be "lusardi" when you bluff a missed flush draw and get called. you tried to win with your broken flush and got caught!

me: (big river bet)
opponent: (makes call)
me: i got a lusardi
I got a Lusardi. Perfect!
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02-01-2014 , 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Allworld23
Nice work buddy!.... Listen, since you have been down at the Borgata, what is the latest that you have heard about this chip scandal? What is the word floating around the room? Refunds with a Free-roll? Nothing?

Please give some information.

Thank you
thx, not much news. all of us 27 players got an email from Brian Brennan telling us that they are very pleased that an arrest was made and that the DGE has more work to do. have to say the Borgata took good care of me this week.

it was interesting playing with some of the top players and their response to Chipgate: they all said there is zero chance of us not getting paid but also not much of a chance of the rest of the players getting a refund. The top players (okay, at least the small sample size I talked to) don't seem to view the casinos with the same hostility that many posters here might. The top players and the Borgata are pretty much business partners if you think about it. None of the pros want to see the Borgata take a 4 million dollar hit here.
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02-01-2014 , 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Fishman11
I personally think every time his name is mentioned in any fashion, he is getting more notoriety than he deserves. I think the name should be added to the list of words that George Carlin developed and if used in any poker room would be grounds for removal!!
George Carlin rolled over in his grave after reading your post.
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02-01-2014 , 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by pninwin
thx, not much news. all of us 27 players got an email from Brian Brennan telling us that they are very pleased that an arrest was made and that the DGE has more work to do. have to say the Borgata took good care of me this week.

it was interesting playing with some of the top players and their response to Chipgate: they all said there is zero chance of us not getting paid but also not much of a chance of the rest of the players getting a refund. The top players (okay, at least the small sample size I talked to) don't seem to view the casinos with the same hostility that many posters here might. The top players and the Borgata are pretty much business partners if you think about it. None of the pros want to see the Borgata take a 4 million dollar hit here.
thanks for update. truly sorry for what happened to you and others. Can't imagine the pain of getting that deep in a 2M, with your eyes on the prize, and have it ripped away, by the scammers. worst beat of all.

I thought any "hit" for Borgata would be MAX of all buyins that didn't cash, or more like $2M, less if DGE decides some non-cashers are not eligible for refunds.
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02-01-2014 , 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by pninwin
thx, not much news. all of us 27 players got an email from Brian Brennan telling us that they are very pleased that an arrest was made and that the DGE has more work to do. have to say the Borgata took good care of me this week.

it was interesting playing with some of the top players and their response to Chipgate: they all said there is zero chance of us not getting paid but also not much of a chance of the rest of the players getting a refund. The top players (okay, at least the small sample size I talked to) don't seem to view the casinos with the same hostility that many posters here might. The top players and the Borgata are pretty much business partners if you think about it. None of the pros want to see the Borgata take a 4 million dollar hit here.


Oh lawd.. end well this will not
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02-01-2014 , 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by pninwin
thx, not much news. all of us 27 players got an email from Brian Brennan telling us that they are very pleased that an arrest was made and that the DGE has more work to do. have to say the Borgata took good care of me this week.

it was interesting playing with some of the top players and their response to Chipgate: they all said there is zero chance of us not getting paid but also not much of a chance of the rest of the players getting a refund. The top players (okay, at least the small sample size I talked to) don't seem to view the casinos with the same hostility that many posters here might. The top players and the Borgata are pretty much business partners if you think about it. None of the pros want to see the Borgata take a 4 million dollar hit here.

Just to let everyone know. I will embarrass the Borgatta in any way I can. If I do not get refunds from the 1c group. The whole god damn flight was corrupted by the introduction of these damn fakes. The dealers were half ******ed and had no idea what they were doing. They should have policed the damn table they worked. I played against those damn chips and was cheated. Borgatta better not make some jerk off move here....
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02-01-2014 , 10:10 PM
They should rename "going south" to a "reverse Lusardi"
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02-01-2014 , 10:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Allworld23
Just to let everyone know. I will embarrass the Borgatta in any way I can. If I do not get refunds from the 1c group.
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I find this laughable: sentence fragment guy vs. the p.r. department of a major corporation. What do you. Plan to do?

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Originally Posted by Allworld23
The whole god damn flight was corrupted by the introduction of these damn fakes.
. What evidence do you have that fake chips were in day1 c?

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Originally Posted by Allworld23
The dealers were half ******ed and had no idea what they were doing. They should have policed the damn table they worked. I played against those damn chips and was cheated.
.

Sounds like you saw the fake chips, knew the dealer's were inexperienced and that there were fakes at your table. Did you report these facts to the floor or just continue to buy multiple bullets? You knew you played against fake chips? You know you were cheated when you were knocked out?

I suspect you did not suspect anything while playing and are just looking for a rebate. It also seems like you are an expert in half-******ed behavior.

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Originally Posted by Allworld23
. Borgatta better not make some jerk off move here....
Sounds like you have the market cornered on jerk off moves....
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02-01-2014 , 11:14 PM
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Originally Posted by jjjou812
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I find this laughable: sentence fragment guy vs. the p.r. department of a major corporation. What do you. Plan to do?

. What evidence do you have that fake chips were in day1 c?

.

Sounds like you saw the fake chips, knew the dealer's were inexperienced and that there were fakes at your table. Did you report these facts to the floor or just continue to buy multiple bullets? You knew you played against fake chips? You know you were cheated when you were knocked out?

I suspect you did not suspect anything while playing and are just looking for a rebate. It also seems like you are an expert in half-******ed behavior.


Sounds like you have the market cornered on jerk off moves....
Dont be jealous moron. Different shade of 5k chips and I thought nothing of it. UNTIL it was revealed that there was only one shade of 5 k chips.

small claims court. no brainer. I don't give 2 hoots about my grammar, this aint english class.
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02-01-2014 , 11:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Allworld23
Dont be jealous moron. Different shade of 5k chips and I thought nothing of it. UNTIL it was revealed that there was only one shade of 5 k chips.
And yet I'm sure that this had nothing to do with you busting out.


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Originally Posted by Allworld23
small claims court. no brainer. I don't give 2 hoots about my grammar, this aint english class.
Maybe you should go on Judge Judy; she usually throws in free grammar lessons when she yells at the morons.
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