yes, a totally new historical developement, unique to our times, but you are right also

I think it does come out of capital. Don't the funds have to be segregated as owned by the players? That's as good as a cash outlay. It doesn't belong to PS anymore.

The way FTP and AGCC did things and the way PS and Isle of Mann does things concerning player money IS different, so you have that to support your idea IMHO

Matter of semantics and viewpoint. If I said to you that as part of a bigger deal you have to put $5000 cash into an account that you can't touch and will eventually be withdrawn, but it will earn you $5000+ over the next year or two that you wouldn't otherwise earn, would you think of it as money spent on the deal?

But I don't disagree with you from the viewpoint of true accounting. I'm just making the point that this deal is a bargain for PS, all things considered. (And a godsend for players.)

ps buying ftp will be better for ftp2

ppl will trust ps over gtb by a factor of 1/100.

roll on opening day if works out.

You should have an email of the transaction. Start looking for it.



This one.

I didn't even think about that, thanks.

A lot of it wont be recoverable but if any of the money from these deposits is still in that player's account it can be deducted. So aside from the money that was deposited and then cashed out or lost to other players, the money can be recovered.

I totally admit to grunching a bit here, as I have been busy, but some people have suggested I reply to a few posts involving me. Sorry for the length.


This is not true, please provide proof.

Have you been to a pc yet? Please provide proof of your allegation.

Your point remains? So does my request for proof.


I would like you to spell it out.

I have read them all Still waiting to hear how I mislead anyone.

Please provide proof of what I printed that turned out to be not true on my part?

I never said FTP2 via GBT would open in May, do not try to quote me out of context.
Again, please show me anything I posted or published that was incorrect.

Frankly, I dont care if you get tilted, you are free to never open one of my posts or any of my articles. If I was able to publicly cite my sources, I would. Most times in this saga, I have agreed not to. This is not some minor little case sir, the government is involved and there are significant criminal and civil charges alleged and not only money, but liberty is at stake for some. There are potentially thousands of sources of information in this whole mess. Their livelihoods may be at stake, or worse, if their identities were revealed. Just because I don't name them publicly, does not mean that I didn't do my own due diligence in vetting them and their information. I do not publish, as fact, any anonymous whispers I hear, I take what I try to put out there very seriously. In the end, it's "I can tell you/get you this if you promise to protect my identity". I make the judgment call whether I can verify the information and go with it. To date, I like my track record.

I would like you, again, to point out where I was wrong, or where I said something and then said "oops, sorry I was mislead".
I will admit that could certainly happen, as things are not always as they seem. Luckily, so far it has not. If it does, I will be the first person to admit I was conned/fooled/mislead.

As for my patience remarks, I agree, I have said it too many times to count. I don't think I EVER said "be patient, your money is on the way", it was always, be patient for info on the next steps expected to happen. If you read something else than what is written, perhaps it is your mistake and not mine.
I have said a million times that I don't get paid for writing or investigating any of this, neither did anyone at Subject: Poker. In fact, it's been costly, and both sites survive(d) only on donations thru the generosity of others. Neither site even runs any ads or is/was hosted on other sites that do. I am beholdin' to no one to write one word. But, that shouldn't matter to you, and it shouldn't change your view. Either you think I've failed and mislead you or I haven't.

Either way, I will nicely ask you, as others have, to either provide your proof, or stop slandering me.

Well said diamond, the majority here appreciate your hard work don't let the trolls get to you

can anyone comment on the validity of the stars buyout? is this strictly conjecture, or is there actually something in the mix...

I see plenty, including your agenda.

I wish this "job" was as easy as people feeding me information. It's not.

While I do not claim to be in the class of the Washington Post as far as journalistic quality, I am pretty confident I have already forgotten more about this particular case than they will ever know. That is not a dig, just emphasizing the fact that this subject is not the priority of the mainstream media, which is why poker news sites exist.

I also have never published any article that was reliant on quoting "the speculation mongers on 2+2".

Please bring your facts to this thread, or go back to posting under your normal screenname, you know, the one you likely used before creating one just to try to take readers interests away from the facts at hand.

TY sir and ty to everyone that posted and saw this nonsense for what it was.

The money was sitting in American banks.

Sources have told me that "in limbo" funds that never actually reached their destinations were addressed/returned as part of the account balances. Naturally I have no way of knowing if this has been accurately done, but I do believe it was the plan. When the time comes, players will individually have to confirm that their balance is correct.

D_F u dont have to even respond to the troll, dont think that the rest of us dont have judgement and cant see what amazing job you are doing, i really hope u keep it up

diamond:dont bother urself with trolls.keep up good work !

Kudos to Diamond Flush for the hard work and diligence.

Because of all of the shadiness in the poker world, we have become conditioned to be suspicious of just about everybody. Your transparent scrupulousness has earned you the trust of the community in a very tough environment. That's not easy to do.

Well done, and thanks for all of your hard work.

Anyone of when we are supposed to hear some more news? Or just "when they are ready still?"

No.

DOJ becoming politicized refers to the DOJ acting on the political wishes of whomever is running the executive branch, not the other way around.

Also, suggesting the current White House has any influence over the current Congress is lol.

Hey D_F, if you got some time left:

I know you're under DNA or other confidential bindings, but can you tell us what your impression is on whether the new party to buy FTP will or will not be faster than GBT in completing the deal? And if so, by how much? Maybe even, what makes you come to that conclusion?

WINNING GL US MFKN USA

Any official statement from Pokerstars about the pending acquisition is a few weeks away minimum. IMHO

We probably were never even supposed to hear this news, obviously they weren't quite ready, but with Tapie about to announce their deal fell through this was probably leaked for suicide prevention purposes.

keep in mind that "we have no comment at this time" is significantly better then hearing "we are not affiliated with the pending purchase of FTP's assets". At any point no news is good news as weird as that is. A 750mil deal doesn't just happen to work itself out overnight. Be patient poker community. This sounds like the best option to restore some faith in the FTP brand by the "more trustworthy rival taking over its mismanaged rival. Its a very profitable venture in the long run and it should be done from a business perspective.