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05-13-2012 , 05:54 AM
damn, if i was in your shoes and with your past(the disaster with scott matusow) i would only say these things if i was 200% certain, otherwise i'm sorry to say it but u will forever look like a douche.
05-13-2012 , 06:09 AM
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Originally Posted by elendil200
You want to be correct with this, otherwise the perma banhammer will come down upon you. I hope your right.
We don't actually ban people for being wrong.
05-13-2012 , 06:19 AM
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Originally Posted by joeyrulesall
Only thing I can think is to stop competition from buying FTP but isn't competition good for business?
Competition is good for the customers, not the business. lol
05-13-2012 , 06:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Chinamaniac
Even money wager if you don't believe me. As of right now Stars plan is to make this official the 3rd week of May.
I'd place a bet on this purely because it's kind of (small) insurance, at this point, I've basically written off my FTP balance. So how about, if there's no announcement similar to the one you've described this week, you ship me $100 on stars, if there is, I'll ship you $110 on FTP as soon as they go online?
05-13-2012 , 06:23 AM
Even if Chinamaniac's source is correct, it doesn't mean there'll be an announcement this week. I would expect it to be delayed, just because that's how these things usually go.
05-13-2012 , 06:33 AM
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Originally Posted by i like disco
the third week of May is this week.
He means 2013
05-13-2012 , 06:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Stickit69r
can diamond flush please elaborate on what happened with the Tapie ultimatum? He wanted to hire all the top FTP staff and start a new company. Have not heard anything on that front.
If I had to guess, it seems like a tantrum/stunt on his part. I dunno. From the beginning with GBT, he's always been very careful to phrase things in such a way that his requirements are absurdly specific (for example with Tapie's offer to hire Pocket Kings Staff: He only agreed to do it if all senior PK staff came along. What are the chances that actually happens?) so that way when one little corner case of his ultimatum/deal/offer/whatever isn't met, he can walk away.

I mean, I can offer to get a tattoo of Howard Lederer's forehead on my face, and I'm at zero risk if I just say that every person who posted in this thread has to send me a PM telling me to do it. It just won't happen.

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Originally Posted by Vrilya
He means 2013
That's an even better bet imo. There's a much greater chance we hear an announcement next week than there is exactly one year from next week. ^_^

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Originally Posted by joeyrulesall
Hasn't been answered truthfully. It's been answered by people blinded by the optimism of being paid back.
Now that the euphoria has somewhat worn off and people are thinking more clearly can someone give me a real reason why this would happen.
I've actually had a small part in writing a very detailed conversation style essay on exactly that topic, tapping several of the minds in the online poker community. Since you seem to have missed it, I've provided a link.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/29...fs-op-1089355/

Last edited by SGT RJ; 05-13-2012 at 11:05 AM.
05-13-2012 , 06:55 AM
Chinamaniac gets some crap from you guys, when all he is doing is trying to help by sharing any info he has. Personally i favour rumours of things that are about to happen rather than the "nothingness" we are going thru.
I wonder if as many of you who flame him, will be as quick to thank him once the news does break on the exact week he said.
05-13-2012 , 06:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Kirbynator
gotta agree with joey here

Spoiler:
If you agree with me then he must be right then.
05-13-2012 , 07:08 AM
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Originally Posted by yurk
They will if Wynn/Harrahs/etc want to use Stars software and reputation in a few years.
I think if you kept up with the news, you would discover that the casinos you mentioned have already partnered up with other companies. And these companies did NOT operate in the US post UIGEA.
05-13-2012 , 07:10 AM
is this what you have been talking about?
http://www.gaming-awards.com/NEWS/archives/9222
05-13-2012 , 07:21 AM
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Originally Posted by czechvengeance
is this what you have been talking about?
http://www.gaming-awards.com/NEWS/archives/9222
I have been out of the loop. This is all news to me and I appreciate all that are sharing. I know a lot of you have known about all this for weeks but some of us have not.
05-13-2012 , 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted by yoyoplo
1.how the **** could they turn down the 95% deal?(real question plz answer someone with a brain or two)
2.will pokerstars buy ftp now and repay 100% within 3 months?
3. OMG 2+2 is baaaaaaaaaaack!!=!=:
Because the 5% have all the money. Ther 95% would include balances of pennies to a few dollars, to maybe a few hundred. They need to pay everyone back equally, its the only fair way
05-13-2012 , 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted by czechvengeance
is this what you have been talking about?
http://www.gaming-awards.com/NEWS/archives/9222
boom? is this as good as it sounds?
05-13-2012 , 07:50 AM
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Originally Posted by czechvengeance
is this what you have been talking about?
http://www.gaming-awards.com/NEWS/archives/9222
I think that news article is purely based on the rumours posted in this topic.

2+2 forums went off line for 2 weeks and none of the sites posted any news on the subject (except for wickedchops). Now we're back online and here we go; gaming sites have news again.

A little bit too much of a coincidence imo
05-13-2012 , 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Chinamaniac
That said I am not sharing my source with the public and if anyone cares to make a small wager on the announcement this week I am for it and we can escrow.
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/29...ralia-1051532/

cliffs: guy says Stars is pulling out of Australia, and says on QJ's he is willing to bet 100k it is true.

Last edited by botweaver; 05-13-2012 at 07:57 AM. Reason: sp
05-13-2012 , 08:30 AM
Here's a question.

If/when FTP reopens, US players living abroad; do we have to get our monies from the DOJ or can we just reopen our accounts.

If we have to get our money from the DOJ, we have to reopen another account with FTP etc?
05-13-2012 , 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by aggo
LOL

FTP train never stops
No it won't slow down (Ian Anderson)
05-13-2012 , 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by czechvengeance
is this what you have been talking about?
http://www.gaming-awards.com/NEWS/archives/9222
This is pretty much the same story I got 2 weeks ago. My sources tell me 3rd week of May, according to them it's the next 10 days which would be the 23rd which is same ballpark.

Looks like a lock. Now let's get paid
05-13-2012 , 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by botweaver
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/29...ralia-1051532/

cliffs: guy says Stars is pulling out of Australia, and says on QJ's he is willing to bet 100k it is true.
you do realize this link is 1 year old?
05-13-2012 , 08:52 AM
would it make a difference if it happened last week?
05-13-2012 , 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Chinamaniac
This is pretty much the same story I got 2 weeks ago. My sources tell me 3rd week of May, according to them it's the next 10 days which would be the 23rd which is same ballpark.

Looks like a lock. Now let's get paid
You said your "sources" told you this on May 1.
Without quoting sources, I can say that on May 1, it was hopeful that an announcement would have happened by now (in which case you would have said you were right).
I can also say with some authority that on May 1, had any negotiations been finalized, there would have been no delay of 3 weeks in announcing it just to make you right.
That said, there could be an announcement tomorrow, or any other day, hopefully soon, within May.

And fwiw, the calendar third week of May ends on the 19th. Also, imo, "ballpark" doesn't qualify for the bet you were willing to make.
05-13-2012 , 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by czechvengeance
is this what you have been talking about?
http://www.gaming-awards.com/NEWS/archives/9222
Is this the site that was saying something about a big announcement and then it turned out to be something totally stupid?
05-13-2012 , 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by botweaver
would it make a difference if it happened last week?
sorry I was skimming thru the thread, I thought you meant that as actual news
05-13-2012 , 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Huskermoney00
Is this the site that was saying something about a big announcement and then it turned out to be something totally stupid?
Yes, they twitted smth like " tonight the FTP news " & resulted it was old rclycled news

      
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