Good Job!

shorthanded and already looks like everyone is confused. i think if you had a bunch of regular players they would get the hang of it but then you have a game with bunch of regular players so sorta defeats the purpose a bit.

how many "all-in... oh wait i meant the other hand where im shortstacked" moments on day one?

edit: oh wait forgot it was limit only

5/10 limit Holdem one side only
$5 chips one side only $10 chips with $1 chips for sb

seems pretty smart

www.dualholdem.com

Depending on if and when these guys applied for Intellectual Property protection they may be infringing our game concept.

Based on the picture in post #246, both boards are both centered in the middle of the table; I'd off-set the boards so that each dealer deals his cards a bit closer to him. Seems like that would make it a bit more clear which dealer/board go together.

i always make sure to click all the links from guys named conjunk

well... they did exhibit that game at the Sands .. the Global Gaming Expo, in October of this year. But that doesn't say anything about whatever rights, if any, they've acquired.. All the Sands cares about is you can afford huge fees..

But them being in Cyprus, it's probably gonna be on the costly side to work things out.. you might be best off with an attorney that speaks Greek.

I think you are confused on who is who.

Oscar

hmm.. no doubt I am..
Both opposing interests are in this thread?

nevermind.. i think i got it now. There is no opposition. Someone else only thought there was.

Is it more hassle and less tips for dealers?

My wife and I were two of the initial players. It's easy to figure out who we were...she is the girl in the pink, I'm the jerk next to her in the funky hat.

I will write a full and detailed report later today, but my very first thoughts are that it can work as a game, even for casual players, and be enjoyable...but only as a limit game, and only if there are two entirely different chips colors that are the denomination of the game (hence why we didn't switch to 4/8 but rather to 5/10), thereby allowing the bets to simply be 1 or 2 chips, and allow mistakes to be quickly addressed and fixed.

Which isn't a bad thing...arent people clamoring for mid-stakes limit games? Here will be a way to run a middle stakes limit game...and get more hands in the process.

Alright, after seeing an actual photo I really see only one improvement needed. Anytime both pots are pushed to a single player the dealers should.....

man... how the heck are they going to get 8 players on that table? it looks incredibly tight.

I'm confused by just watching that video...

lol this is a joke right?

I think that one thing this could be good for and actually work (get recreational players to sit etc.), would be a "Double Sit N Go":

- Two simultaneous SNGs would start at the same time, same blind structure etc.
- Different chip sets obviously.
- If you bust out of one that half of your area is blocked so the dealers wont get confused.
So almost twice the juice for the casino.

Also everyone should understand that this is how innovation works: you go out on a limb, try something new, succeed/fail/partially fail and in any case learn from the process and then someone comes up with something better.

Even more so as there are 9 player positions and two dealers.

The dealers heads look like they are ready to explode.

First time in the box, maybe, then after a few hands they figure out the flow and get into it. One thing they did that helped alot was to clearly announce every action. One dealer read the seat names in the player comp tracking system, and announced by name, "Mike, your big blind on blue" etc.

PP... can you opt to sit out of one hand and play the other or are you compelled to play both hands?

Everyone was playing both hands until someone was racking up, then they were allowed to play to the BB in each hand.

My guess is you will not be able to sit in and only play one set of hands.

The table and spots look very tight like MSchu stated above. When getting a pot pushed to you it's gonna infringe on the person to your left or right. I don't see how this game will last, just way to much potential for problems IMO.

These tables are 9 handed. I believe the discussion was to set them at eight. Still very much a work in progress. I would expect to see several variations tried out over the next few weeks.

What are the rules about moving chips between colors? Like for example if you were to bust on one color and don't have money in your pocket to reload are you allowed to play just the other color or do they make you divide your stack between the two colors?

if you are felted in one color... YOU CAN then move chips to that color from your other stack.

Jay: I meant to quote you regarding shipped pots going to wrong players...not sure what happened...

That issue is why the stacks to your immediate left and right are different colors. When it was 2 3/6 limit games, this was an immediate issue. When we switched to 3/6 limit (mint chips) and 5/10 limit (red chips), if a pot meant for seat 7's blue stack was pushed near seat 8's red stack, it wasn't an issue, since seat 8's red stack was all red chips. Yes, occassionally a bet or a blind for one game would get swallowed by the pushing of the pot in the other...and a player or dealer would quickly spot the clearly different chip, grab it, put it where it belong and the games quickly resumed.

So many of the criticisms here are either not applicable, are being (or have been) addressesd, or are flat out nit-picking. Some of you guys sound like the grumpy old rock nits who complain about anything that takes them out of their bubble-world where poker is a HE-only limp/fit/fold fest, 3bets have to be QQ+, dealers can control the cards they deal, anything aggressive without a "made hand" is gambling, and belongs in the pits, not in a REALPOKER game, Jacks suck, Aces never get cracked, bad beat jackpots hit routinely enough that one should make sure to always, playing anything less than 8-handed is illegal...and if I continued listing topics of complaints the post would get deleted for being too long...

Just try the game once first. There are legitimate concerns, but some of these things are nothing more than "this isn't what I'm used to, this isn't the way I have played poker, so therefore it's wrong and bad".

Whether or not this works long-term as a concept will almost definitely come down to whether enough casual/tourist players will want to play it either because it's different or because they will enjoy playing two limit games as opposed to no limit games. If there are enough, then the game will not only be a bunch of limit-regs. The actual in-game mechanics "work", and you will be able to get two limit games going and get significantly more hands per hour.